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  • HUGE bug in FCP5, any solutions?

    Posted by Joey Korenman on May 31, 2005 at 5:06 pm

    First off, I am very experienced with Final Cut Pro, and I work at a professional facility. I use a broadcast monitor when I edit, and I know the difference between interlaced and non-interlaced footage. I just want to clear that up so you guys know that this is not a problem caused by lack of knowledge. This problem was not present in FCP 4.5, and now it is. It’s a bug.

    If I import any graphic into a DV timeline, it looks like ass. Currently I’m editing a piece that was shot on the Panasonic DVX100A. The timeline is a standard DV timeline, 29.97, lower-field dominant, 720×480, etc… In Final Cut Pro HD I could edit in stills, text, graphics, and put motion on all of them and everything was smooth on the broadcast monitor. Now, any text, graphics, or photos all look like they have been de-interlaced (the resolution is cut in half). Text renders with a ton of jitter, and images look blurry and pixelated.

    I found out that by going to the sequence setting and changing “Field Dominance” to “None” the graphics and text rendered perfectly again. However, if I render a speed change on the footage, it renders incorrectly now since it needs to be rendered with fields.

    I have seen this problem posted a few times, but it seems like not everyone is experiencing it, or maybe no one has a solution yet. Has anyone else seen this happen or figured out a workaround? This is a pretty huge bug I’d say.

    joey

    Robin replied 20 years, 11 months ago 8 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Aaron Neitz

    May 31, 2005 at 5:38 pm

    We’ve always had problems with graphics in DV. Even in FCP 4.5. Same solution – set fields to ‘None.’ But then, of course, any speed ramps in your timeline look horrible. I was hoping FCP5 solved this – but I guess not.

  • Aaron Neitz

    May 31, 2005 at 5:39 pm

    We’ve always had problems with graphics in DV. Even in FCP 4.5. Same solution – set fields to ‘None.’ But then, of course, any speed ramps in your timeline look horrible. I was hoping FCP5 solved this – but I guess not.

    Double check that FCP didn’t automatically set your graphics to 98.76% size. I’ve had it do that many times before (no apparent reason) which was causing some soft looking video.

  • David Bogie

    May 31, 2005 at 5:48 pm

    [CharlieX] “We’ve always had problems with graphics in DV. Even in FCP 4.5. Same solution – set fields to ‘None.’ But then, of course, any speed ramps in your timeline look horrible. I was hoping FCP5 solved this – but I guess not.Double check that FCP didn’t automatically set your graphics to 98.76% size. I’ve had it do that many times before (no apparent reason) which was causing some soft looking video.”

    The auto-scale was usually a user issue, wrong pixel aspect ratio.

    This “HUGE bug” is a new issue. AFAICT, it still only affects some users on some systems. The traffic on the subject is hot and cold on most of the other FCP forums. Over on apple.com, the buzz on buzzing and improperly rendering graphics and stills has diminished. This suggests the affected folks have found solutions or tolerable workarounds.

    All I can tell you is that my imported photographs from Photoshop look fine. I have not gotten deeply into motion editing and
    still images from video so I cannot confirm the problem on my G4-Tiger-FCP5 system.

    I hope we all get it figured out soon.

    bogiesan

    This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”

  • Derek Woods

    May 31, 2005 at 5:54 pm

    The weird thing is, it doesn’t seem to happen to all jpegs. two identical jpegs, same properties, one looks fine the other doesn’t.

  • Joey Korenman

    May 31, 2005 at 6:14 pm

    I found a solution (I think). I went to the sequence setting > video processing > motion filtering quality options and set it to “Fastest.” Everything had to re-render, but it looks like it did in Final Cut HD, which is good enough for me. I guess the “Normal” and “Best” Settings are screwed up.

    Let me know if this works for anyone else.

    joey

  • Misha Aranyshev

    May 31, 2005 at 6:47 pm

    Why instead of setting sequence field dominance to None don’t you set imported clip field dominance to Lower?

  • Mike

    May 31, 2005 at 7:07 pm

    I had this problem when working with DVCProHD footage in Final Cut 4.5. I don’t know if exactly the same as what you’re describing, but text and graphics looked horrible and jaggy and appeared as if they were only displaying one field. This went away if I changed my system settings>playback control to “high” – everything looked horrible under “medium”. Try changing to “high” and seeing if that fixes it.

    – Mike

  • Joey Korenman

    May 31, 2005 at 7:25 pm

    All of the playback settings are on High, so that’s not the issue, and setting the footage setting to “lower-field first” didn’t fix it either.

    Seriously, setting the motion filtering quality to “fastest” fixed all my problems. I guess I’ll have to wait to see if the 2 “better” qualities are all that great since for now they are unusable.

    joey

  • Solie Swan

    May 31, 2005 at 11:14 pm

    Try installing the new verison of QT – 7.0.1 and see if it helps. It just showed up in my software update.

  • Robin

    June 1, 2005 at 11:18 pm

    An idea.

    When you create your graphics in photoshop or whatever do you create them as 720 or 788? Whenever I create images for DV video I make them 788 x 576 then when you’ve finished making it up you do an image resize (in p’shop) to 720, it just adjusts your image to the difference from square to rectangular pixels.

    I assume you’re doing this?

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