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HDCAM Project….DVCPRO-HD Workflow
Posted by Chris Borjis on June 11, 2007 at 3:26 pmI have a huge project coming up in the fall that will come in all on HDCAM format.
I was going to digitize it with prores but a G5 quad can’t capture prores and I may not have a macpro by then.
Have any of you done pure hdcam based projects captured and layed back via dvcprohd codec?
I think I heard Shane R and Walter B talk about this but I thought that was for mixed formats.
I guess my question is, does DVCPRO-HD output back to HDCAM just as well as a DVCPRO-HD deck but over HD-SDI instead of firewire?
thanks
Chris Borjis replied 19 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 7 Replies -
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Gary Adcock
June 11, 2007 at 3:56 pm[Borjis] “does DVCPRO-HD output back to HDCAM just as well as a DVCPRO-HD deck but over HD-SDI instead of firewire?”
yes
I do this workflow on a daily basis, using my Kona card, and should higher quality be needed for parts of the project like efx, since I used original tapes to digitize, I can recapture in UC for just those placed where I need the best quality.
Usual DVCPROHD guidelines, some motion graphics do not take well to that codec nor does compositing with soft grads. but for a broadcast show you should have no issues.
FYI –QT rips to ProRes quickly and correctly –capture as UC and convert to ProRes works very well.
gary adcock
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Chris Borjis
June 11, 2007 at 4:26 pmThanks Gary,
But can a G5 system handle the layback of ProRes to an HD-SDI signal thats 20 minutes long without dropping frames?
My intuition says yes, since compression usually takes twice the overhead of de-compression.
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Shane Ross
June 11, 2007 at 4:40 pmGary…he asked for me and Walter…not you.. BUTT OUT! (lol)
[Borjis] “I guess my question is, does DVCPRO-HD output back to HDCAM just as well as a DVCPRO-HD deck but over HD-SDI instead of firewire?”
I have the same answer as Gary…yes, it does. Although I would consider DVCPRO HD an offline codec at this point..and would recommend that you recapture your locked sequence at 10-bit uncompressed (iffin your drives can take it) for better quality.
Or maybe transcode the final project into ProRes 422 (you can do that at least) and color correct in a 10-bit space, then output. I wanna try that myself…but won’t be getting FCP 6 for a while.
Shane

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Shane Ross
June 11, 2007 at 4:57 pm[Borjis] “But can a G5 system handle the layback of ProRes to an HD-SDI signal thats 20 minutes long without dropping frames?”
Depends on your Raid array…That is what needs to handle it.
Shane

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Gary Adcock
June 11, 2007 at 5:13 pm[Borjis] “But can a G5 system handle the layback of ProRes to an HD-SDI signa”
I am having no issues what so ever with playback of 2 streams of 1080 23.98sf ProRes HQ on my DP 2.5 G5 I have been looping a 38 minute clip for about 110 hours from a 4G fibre array with no issue so far.
gary adcock
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Chris Borjis
June 11, 2007 at 5:39 pm[Shane Ross] “Depends on your Raid array…That is what needs to handle it.”
Ciprico 4210 with a 4gb fibre channel interface capable of 4:4:4 RGB dual-link 1080 ingest/playback.
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Chris Borjis
June 11, 2007 at 5:43 pmI won’t have the option to re-capture so capturing as DVCPRO-HD then editing, then exporting as a ProRes 10-bit 1920×1080 file, then color correcting, then outputting over hd-sdi to the HDCAM deck sounds right?
I can deal with that 🙂
One last question, any motion graphics I do (lower 3rds, title intros etc..) should I just do those in ProRes and drop them in the DVCPRO-HD sequence?
What resolution should they be rendered out of After Effects in?
1440×1080 (hdcam) or 1280×1080 (dvcprohd) or 1920×1080 (full raster)Thanks Fellas!
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