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  • HDCAM Project….DVCPRO-HD Workflow

    Posted by Chris Borjis on June 11, 2007 at 3:26 pm

    I have a huge project coming up in the fall that will come in all on HDCAM format.

    I was going to digitize it with prores but a G5 quad can’t capture prores and I may not have a macpro by then.

    Have any of you done pure hdcam based projects captured and layed back via dvcprohd codec?

    I think I heard Shane R and Walter B talk about this but I thought that was for mixed formats.

    I guess my question is, does DVCPRO-HD output back to HDCAM just as well as a DVCPRO-HD deck but over HD-SDI instead of firewire?

    thanks

    Chris Borjis replied 19 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Gary Adcock

    June 11, 2007 at 3:56 pm

    [Borjis] “does DVCPRO-HD output back to HDCAM just as well as a DVCPRO-HD deck but over HD-SDI instead of firewire?”

    yes

    I do this workflow on a daily basis, using my Kona card, and should higher quality be needed for parts of the project like efx, since I used original tapes to digitize, I can recapture in UC for just those placed where I need the best quality.

    Usual DVCPROHD guidelines, some motion graphics do not take well to that codec nor does compositing with soft grads. but for a broadcast show you should have no issues.

    FYI –QT rips to ProRes quickly and correctly –capture as UC and convert to ProRes works very well.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

  • Chris Borjis

    June 11, 2007 at 4:26 pm

    Thanks Gary,

    But can a G5 system handle the layback of ProRes to an HD-SDI signal thats 20 minutes long without dropping frames?

    My intuition says yes, since compression usually takes twice the overhead of de-compression.

  • Shane Ross

    June 11, 2007 at 4:40 pm

    Gary…he asked for me and Walter…not you.. BUTT OUT! (lol)

    [Borjis] “I guess my question is, does DVCPRO-HD output back to HDCAM just as well as a DVCPRO-HD deck but over HD-SDI instead of firewire?”

    I have the same answer as Gary…yes, it does. Although I would consider DVCPRO HD an offline codec at this point..and would recommend that you recapture your locked sequence at 10-bit uncompressed (iffin your drives can take it) for better quality.

    Or maybe transcode the final project into ProRes 422 (you can do that at least) and color correct in a 10-bit space, then output. I wanna try that myself…but won’t be getting FCP 6 for a while.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Shane Ross

    June 11, 2007 at 4:57 pm

    [Borjis] “But can a G5 system handle the layback of ProRes to an HD-SDI signal thats 20 minutes long without dropping frames?”

    Depends on your Raid array…That is what needs to handle it.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Gary Adcock

    June 11, 2007 at 5:13 pm

    [Borjis] “But can a G5 system handle the layback of ProRes to an HD-SDI signa”

    I am having no issues what so ever with playback of 2 streams of 1080 23.98sf ProRes HQ on my DP 2.5 G5 I have been looping a 38 minute clip for about 110 hours from a 4G fibre array with no issue so far.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

  • Chris Borjis

    June 11, 2007 at 5:39 pm

    [Shane Ross] “Depends on your Raid array…That is what needs to handle it.”

    Ciprico 4210 with a 4gb fibre channel interface capable of 4:4:4 RGB dual-link 1080 ingest/playback.

  • Chris Borjis

    June 11, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    I won’t have the option to re-capture so capturing as DVCPRO-HD then editing, then exporting as a ProRes 10-bit 1920×1080 file, then color correcting, then outputting over hd-sdi to the HDCAM deck sounds right?

    I can deal with that 🙂

    One last question, any motion graphics I do (lower 3rds, title intros etc..) should I just do those in ProRes and drop them in the DVCPRO-HD sequence?

    What resolution should they be rendered out of After Effects in?
    1440×1080 (hdcam) or 1280×1080 (dvcprohd) or 1920×1080 (full raster)

    Thanks Fellas!

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