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FCPX Speed and workflow increases ? Real World examples?
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[tony west] “They might not have tried it even if they heard it was great because of the learning curve. (“
I teach my students to edit in X. They’re High Schoolers. Sometimes we use premiere, but for them X is just too intuitive. Very interesting to watch. For example, we do an assignment called “Pass the Salt,” which is two actors reciting meaningless dialogue that they have to use their voices to bring meaning. We cover the scene in WS, MS, CU-1, CU-2, OTS-1, OTS-2. When we used Premiere to edit, I planned for two weeks of instruction. Now, no kidding, it is ONE DAY. So I taught them how to j-cut, l-cut, add effects, color effects, audio edit, foley, sound effects — curriculum I did not have time to get to using Premiere. When it’s exported and on youtube or facebook, no one even comes close to caring about the editing program debates.
My question is when these kids (now 14-18) get into a “big studio,” what are they going to say? When they are bosses making business decisions in 15 years, what are they going to buy?
When I first worked at a studio, the old-dude was super stoked on his $5,000 ATTO RAID 0, for cutting NTSC/DV footage 720×480. I showed him firewire.
Now it appears I’m the old dude.
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[Richard Herd] “I planned for two weeks of instruction. Now, no kidding, it is ONE DAY. “
really? I get its got some deep apple thinking around first apprehension and understanding, that they are exposing the likely connected editing framework to highlight it – god knows they’re the only people who could ever try this for video, but that extreme a response?
Also – aren’t these people maybe going to hit an issue when they approach narrative, doco corpo and the rest of the stuff?
How long are they supposed to hit the market like FCPX lemmings/salmon?Given that the entire ten year FCP shift is now collapsing across the industry – why exactly are entrants with X, however many they might be – how exactly is this supposed to work?
FCP is probably dead this year, possibly drags into the first six months of next year – premiere is literally getting killed by adobe’s defensive move to core app subscription, apple are doing a thing with X of some sort, but the third level feeder colleges aren’t adopting X (are they? please correct me). and that moron software I’m struggling to learn – yes everyone, Avid, maybe with tabs and audio keyframes, is cock-a-hoop.
you know who’s fault this is? Apple’s.
they were thoughtless dicks, they thought they could re-imagine the world, and they made a complete mess of editing for untold numbers of people.they almost shouldn’t be allowed drive. their software license should be taken away. It’s an insane mess.
the only thing they had to do was carefully ease the 40% market egg they were holding into transition, and they would have safeguarded the existing and growing democratisation of editing.
instead they chose to go up their own secondary story software arse.
there is, and never will be a student X wave. – go marvel gag – the only thing of note that is happening right now, is the complete shutdown of the broadly democratising FCP skillset.A retrograde step Apple have personally presided over. they are a house of self involved idiots.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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That’s the first thing I wondered when I saw that 2
Was there someone else besides me? in the Lou
I had to do some stuff during part of it but I think I left it running in the background.
Sorry I can’t say for sure.Audio on the questions was a little rough early on but that’s always a challenge. Unless there is a person standing there aiming a boom mic at folks which most time it’s not really practical budget wise.
I could see the screens pretty well though.
Will you be doing another one anytime soon?
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[Richard Herd] “I teach my students to edit in X. They’re High Schoolers.”
Indeed, when I said learning curve I didn’t mean that it would be hard for them to learn X
I agree, X is super user friendly, I just meant they might not want to even “try” to learn it.
[Richard Herd] “My question is when these kids (now 14-18) get into a “big studio,” what are they going to say? When they are bosses making business decisions in 15 years, what are they going to buy? “
I’m not sure, but I would think that with a bunch of young folks already trained on a software that they have been on since HS, it would be hard to ignore a large pool of young people that could get up and running in your shop.
[Richard Herd] “Now it appears I’m the old dude.”
hehehe
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Richard,
Sorry to be the dunce in the room but what does this mean…
[Richard Herd] “We cover the scene in WS, MS, CU-1, CU-2, OTS-1, OTS-2.”
Cool story.Thanks,
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[tony west] “Will you be doing another one anytime soon?”
Most likely next month, again. The Tricaster owner who knows the internet interface part is up for it.
I think I’m going to do it out of my own studio next time so I have a little more control of the set and lighting and forgo the audience thing.
The challenge is that I deeply, desperately do NOT want to turn this into the “me” show – the problem is that good presenters who know X and are local here are few and far between. I’ve considered trying to Skype in some of the people I know in the wider X community – but that adds another whole level of technical complexity and would still put me in a “by myself on camera in the studio” and I know “I” wouldn’t watch that long before I got bored to death. I’m working on that – so we’ll see.
Really, the biggest part is that I just can’t afford to put so much time into this that I’m hurting my business by prepping large lessons every month. It’s too much effort unless I can find other, hopefully better!, presenters to share the load.
We did pretty well, I thought on the technical web delivery stuff. Now I just have to get to the point where I can make a presentation that’s consistently worth watching. And that, as I was reminded on this first modest attempt – is no small task!
Stay tuned?
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “the fact is you have to change editing modality to allow dissolves.”
Unless I’m mis-reading you (a possibility) this is just incorrect.
In X you just park on a cut and hit Command T (“transition, like Legacy) and it auto-inserts whatever default dissolve you’ve established (or 1 sec if you haven’t specified anything different.)
No such “mode change” is involved at all unless you’re not in select, but hitting A to PARK the software in Select Mode after any mode change is now muscle reflexive for me. So my brain presumes that I’m “always” in Select. Which means that I can ALWAYS auto-insert a dissolve instantly.
It’s just conditioning, like ANY NLE.
Know someone who teaches video editing in elementary school, high school or college? Tell them to check out http://www.StartEditingNow.com – video editing curriculum complete with licensed practice content.
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[Dave Gage] “Richard,
Sorry to be the dunce in the room but what does this mean…
[Richard Herd] “We cover the scene in WS, MS, CU-1, CU-2, OTS-1, OTS-2.”
Cool story.Thanks,
Dave”Since he’s not here, allow me.
“We cover the scene in wide shot, medium shot, close up character 1, close up character 2, over the shoulder 1 and over the shoulder 2.
Typical shot coverage of a two character dialog scene to give the editor options.
Know someone who teaches video editing in elementary school, high school or college? Tell them to check out http://www.StartEditingNow.com – video editing curriculum complete with licensed practice content.
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It’s good to have Aindreas back
Steve Connor
There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum
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[Aindreas Gallagher] ” why exactly are entrants with X, however many they might be – how exactly is this supposed to work?”
Many students at college are being taught AVID but they have X on their personal computers.
They will approach stations or productions houses to get hired with their AVID skills.
If that fails, they will be out there with their 2 thousand dollar dslr’s and their X, hustling web and corp work.
It’s really about economics. Many College students don’t have much money. They have insane debt to payback these days.
You couldn’t get into the game years ago unless you had money. Now it doesn’t take near as much money.
They are coming in one way or another. They can afford the dslr and X
Do you have many interns working at your place?
Every year we get a bunch and I always ask them questions.
What are you learning on? What do you want to do? What are your goals?
They tell me what their plans and goals are.
I like to go to the horse’s mouth for info.
They are asking me questions about the biz and I’m asking them to see where things are going for them.Things are so different now than when many of us got out of college.
And then there this……..
I was talking to a young person the other day and he told me that he wasn’t going to go to college.
That he was going to save his money and just buy a RED
I didn’t really like hearing him say that, but with the cost of college these days, I couldn’t really say it was a horrible plan.
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