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FCPX Broadcast Monitoring in action
Alban Egger replied 14 years, 3 months ago 21 Members · 69 Replies
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Chris Kenny
April 19, 2012 at 10:02 pm[Jamie Franklin] “You said you couldn’t make sense of why people distrusted Apple using logic you simply invented…”
What logic are you saying I invented? That people distrusted Apple because Apple shipped the initial version of FCP X without certain high-end features, and people read this as an indication that Apple wasn’t interested in the pro market? I didn’t invent that. It was a very widely advanced argument. There are to this day people saying that even now that Apple has added most of the relevant features, they still distrust Apple’s commitment to the pro market because they weren’t prioritized highly enough to make it into the initial release.
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Jamie Franklin
April 19, 2012 at 10:05 pm[Eric Parker Andersen] ” ‘Haters’ are those that enjoy hating for its own sake, the ones who declare that FCPX ‘sucks’, is ‘stupid’ and isn’t ‘pro’. Not true, it clearly works for lots of us in the biz.”
A characterization not nearly directed at said posters as it is to those that have legitimate gripes for a litany of reasons spelled out continuously. I don’t see people griping for griping sake. But I do see people inventing revisionist prose projecting a delusional fantasy against those that have vented various frustrations at Apple, it’s new product and disingenuous rollout. As if hey, none of that happened! You just don’t “get it!” It’s all sunshine and lollipops, and here is a smug condescending reason why they don’t get it…. /facepalm
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Chris Kenny
April 19, 2012 at 10:07 pm[Eric Parker Andersen] “I was actually curious to hear others’ take on the Broadcast monitoring. I wanted to hear of any potential problems since I’ve been starting to use it in earnest for actual delivery on HDCAM tape.”
Apple does warn that the audio sync is currently only accurate to the frame level with the broadcast output, not the sample level. Between that and FCP X’s lack of deck control, I think I’d be tempted to keep exporting and using an external app (e.g. Blackmagic’s Media Express) for laying down to tape.
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Jim Giberti
April 19, 2012 at 10:14 pm[Eric Parker Andersen] “Just a quick thought for those that wrestle with the magnetic timeline in FCPX. Just lay down a big gap clip, and edit everything else as a connected storyline. Bam, almost a classic NLE timeline, almost. “
I know what you’re saying Eric, but of course you lose the full trimming tools and other plusses by eliminating the Primary, but you’re right – and that’s one of the approaches I’ve tried when I wanted more linear control.
But this thread has already gone from Broadcast monitoring (which got me interested) to general psych 101. But I’d love to talk more in another thread. After finishing our latest short this week in X, I’ve almost come round to the approach – but virtual tracks and (please) a quick evolution of the compound clip concept) and I could be convinced it’s a solid direction…and the promised audio mixing.
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Chris Kenny
April 19, 2012 at 10:15 pm[David Roth Weiss] “Could it be because they stranded the vast majority of their reported 2-million users without any warning, without a “true” replacement, and without a solution for opening their previous years of projects?”
I don’t buy the “stranded” rhetoric. Had FCP 7 broken with the next system update and never been fixed or something, that would be Apple stranding its users. But FCP 7 continued to work — it still works just fine to this day on Lion. We still use it regularly, because our clients still regularly bring us projects edited in it. It doesn’t feel like we had something before the FCP X release that we suddenly lost after it.
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Neil Goodman
April 19, 2012 at 10:33 pmNope, all the systems are NBC/Uni’s..HP’s and Nitirs’.and of course, the editors would want to keep our jobs, but our post supervisor has openly stated FCPX isnt on her radar as of yet. It would be hard to convince anyone to ditch the ISIS’ and ecosytem we have here for some completely new piece of software, especially one that isnt adopted widely.
As far as the freelance goes, Its mostly the clients saying i want this cut on this or that, and i use my own gear at home mostly although occasionally a few of my clients have me work outa there offices. At home im basically setu p to use any software someone might ask for, even FCPx so its not really an issue there but Premiere CS is on every computer i’ve ever worked on, except our bays here at work, and still no ones asked me to cut on it.
Neil Goodman: Editor of New Media Production – NBC/Universal
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Jim Giberti
April 19, 2012 at 10:38 pm[David Roth Weiss] “Could it be because they stranded the vast majority of their reported 2-million users without any warning, without a “true” replacement, and without a solution for opening their previous years of projects?”
While I’ve really grown to enjoy much of the program, I recognize that it’s because our workflow and acquisition format allowed for me to work with it and to continue to work through it.
For so many of my industry colleagues (and Apple clients) that has simply not been the case because they were, in fact, excluded from the program by default.
That was shortsighted and close minded on Apple’s part. It could have been done much differently.
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Michael Hadley
April 19, 2012 at 10:39 pmWow. This is the most “passion” I’ve seen on the cow in a long time. But: Apple totally screwed the launch of X AND scared the bejeesus out of every FCP 7 editor who had learned and invested in master the tool of their business. One of the worst bungles the company has ever made.
That said, while not a perfect fit for every pro/working editor, I have found that X suits my needs and, perhaps most importantly, it makes editing Faster and more Fun. More enjoyable. And gives me more time to focus on the cut.
It still is immature in a lot of ways and need to improve. But I think it has a lot to recommend it, if you are willing to put away your 7 skill set and muscle memory and try something new.
Two more things: I’ve had issues with X and have had no problem getting a tech person to talk with me. Four times. No service contract, nothing. Just called them up. Very short wait. That suggests to me they want to support their customers ’cause they are literally offering free support.
Also: being that Apple is huge and hugely profitable, they have the resources to stay in this line of business for the long term. Their cagey approach to PR leaves one wanting more, but their public actions indicate their commitment. But the screwed up launch still leaves many people leery. Which is perfectly understandable.
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David Roth weiss
April 19, 2012 at 10:41 pm[Chris Kenny] “I don’t buy the “stranded” rhetoric.”
Then you’re out of touch with the other human beings in your chosen field. I deal with stranded users daily who have no idea where to go because their MacPros are old, there’s no replacement, and they still have no idea where to turn.
[Chris Kenny] “It doesn’t feel like we had something before the FCP X release that we suddenly lost after it.”
So, because others don’t feel the same way as you they’re thoughts, feelings, and aspirations are invalid? Get out of that dark room sometime Chris and talk to other pros, it’s obvious you’ve been in isolation far too much.
David Roth Weiss
ProMax Systems
Burbank
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http://www.ProMax.com
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