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  • Eric Parker Andersen

    April 19, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    I haven’t checked in on this forum in awhile, not sure if it just for bashing FCPX/Apple, or if there are many positive posts as well. Here goes.

    Although I’m sure the haters will say ‘too little too late’, I’m having a good experience with the improved broadcast monitoring in FCPX. Yup, that means I’m using it for professional purposes, both at my freelance studio at home, and at the production facility where I work. At home, I can finally show my work on my Sony XBR client monitor via my trusty Blackmagic DeckLink. At my day job, the same AJA i/o Express that let’s me roll out commercial, segment and on-line edits from Avid, now let’s me roll out the commercials, graphics and animations that I create in FCPX/Motion (via SDI to HDCAM usually). I’ve had luck using roles for separating audio stems and have had no problem cutting show segments that wind up in Avid driven on-lines. Some of these shows are delivered digitally, but most go out on HDCAM tape. So far, so good.

    It’s nice to have the monitor up for color grading/correcting, but I say again, the scopes in FCPX are so gorgeous and responsive that flying by instrument (something I always do since I have imperfect vision in one eye) was just fine for me.

    During the first week of its’ release, I was using FCPX for a paid professional edit for a major videogame publisher, even in the ‘beta’ shape that it was released in. I loved it instantly (well, 5 or 10 minutes of confusion), and I was so glad to wrap up my last FCP 7 project. No looking back. There were some birthing pains, and Apple needed to realize that FCP was not an iPod (nobody makes their living with an iPod), but I am grateful that they are looking forward, and the two dozen projects that I completed on FCPX have been a joy to create. And it is only getting better.

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  • Chris Kenny

    April 19, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    [Eric Parker Andersen] “Although I’m sure the haters will say ‘too little too late’, I’m having a good experience with the improved broadcast monitoring in FCPX. “

    I’ve also recently been testing that, and the workflow with Resolve. Things seem pretty smooth.

    The truth is, 99% of the argument against using FCP X for serious work has disappeared. The “it’s not a pro app” narrative is running on fumes. Apple has diligently added broadcast monitoring, better audio export options, multicam, XML. Stability is much improved and performance (especially with long projects) is better. Third parties have filled in gaps like importing FCP 7 projects.

    The chief argument against FCP X these days seems to be that people don’t trust Apple because… why? Because Apple didn’t hold the entire app off of the market until these features were done, despite the fact that the app was useful to much of FCP’s existing user base (and a bunch of other people besides) even without them? I can’t really make sense of it. People try to argue for jumping to Media Composer, despite the danger posed by Avid’s awkward financial situation. They try to argue for jumping to Premiere, forgiving Adobe for all of its canceled apps — of which there have been a fair number over the years, including the original Premiere.


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  • Jules bowman

    April 19, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    Why are people who dislike fc10 considered haters. The use of such a dismissive and derogatory term is a bit arrogant.

    Are those who think magnetic trackless timeline is wrong stupid people to you? Antiquated dinosaurs? Just wrong?

    This moral high ground you seem to stand on is a tad tiresome. And insulting.

    It’s just as easy to say you a haters. Of those who don’t follow your party line. Your beliefs. Who challenge your opinions.

    why oh why are you such haters?

  • Chris Kenny

    April 19, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    [Jules bowman] “Are those who think magnetic trackless timeline is wrong stupid people to you? Antiquated dinosaurs? Just wrong?”

    If they were saying “I don’t like this”, that would be one thing. Many of them are saying something more like “This is inherently broken and impossible to use for professional work, and furthermore demonstrates that Apple is abandoning professional users to go make shiny gadgets”.


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  • Jamie Franklin

    April 19, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    [Chris Kenny] “The chief argument against FCP X these days seems to be that people don’t trust Apple because… why? Because Apple didn’t hold the entire app off of the market until these features were done, despite the fact that the app was useful to much of FCP’s existing user base”

    In delicate terms, that is the opposite of being true. They don’t trust Apple for a variety of reasons, the least of which is their completely disingenuous performance at NAB, rolling out a product they NEVER said was meant for imovie and facebook support with “upmarketing” to “come”. The reason you don’t get it, is, basically during their rollout, you had almost near contempt for people that were rightly justified at being PO’d at the EOLing a product they based their workflows, jobs and built their houses around…with NO warning…

    You know this, yet you don’t get why… “They” don’t trust Apple, yet you don’t get why…it’s because you think the end of history coincided with their last update…said with all due respect.

  • Chris Kenny

    April 19, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    [Jamie Franklin] “In delicate terms, that is the opposite of being true. They don’t trust Apple for a variety of reasons, the least of which is their completely disingenuous performance at NAB, rolling out a product they NEVER said was meant for imovie and facebook support with “upmarketing” to “come”.”

    That would be an interesting point if that were a remotely valid description of the initial release of FCP X. But it’s not. That construction is born out of the notion that the video editing market is divided into broadcast TV, feature films, and YouTube hobbyists, and if a product isn’t suitable for the first two groups it must be targeted at the last. This is simply wrong — the actual world of paid professional video editing is far larger than broadcast TV content and feature film production, and FCP X, even in its initial incarnation, had a feature set suitable for a sizable fraction of the market. (You might argue it was a little too buggy for it to be a great idea for people to adopt it immediately, but that’s a common failing in 1.0 releases and says nothing about Apple’s motivations.)

    [Jamie Franklin] “you had almost near contempt for people that were rightly justified at the EOLing a product they based their workflows, jobs and built their houses around…with NO warning…”

    Pulling Final Cut Studio was clearly an error, but it was never literally unavailable, and Apple put it back on sale when people expressed their concerns. I’m not sure how Apple making a mistake and correcting it in response to feedback justifies long-term distrust.


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  • Andrew Kimery

    April 19, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    [Chris Kenny] “Pulling Final Cut Studio was clearly an error, but it was never literally unavailable, and Apple put it back on sale when people expressed their concerns. I’m not sure how Apple making a mistake and correcting it in response to feedback justifies long-term distrust.”
    FCP was literally unavailable through retail channels (I’m sure people were still selling it on craigslist and eBay) until Apple decided weeks (months?) later to start selling it via their 800 number on a limited basis. Maybe other people had a different experience but it was gone from Apple’s site, gone from Apple’s stores and gone from the the handful of 3rd party Apple retailers I called in my area.

    But that’s all water under the bridge now.

    Why can’t everyone just agree that painting with broad strokes (whether that broad stroke is to call people that don’t like FCPX dinosaurs or to call people that do like FCPX un-pro) is a major hindrance to having a rational discussion and just stop doing it?

    -Andrew

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  • Jamie Franklin

    April 19, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    And round and round we go…

    They EOL’d software without warning…putting back OLD software because people were rightly upset doesn’t excuse Apples moves here and regain “trust”. Promoting their software – “we aren’t leaving the PROS behind” while doing just that doesn’t excuse Apples moves here…1.0 release after 10 years, doesn’t excuse Apples moves here. Redesigning how we edit isn’t a new paradigm, it’s redesigning how we edit, and not embracing it doesn’t make us haters, or irrational as you are insinuating…

    This argument is exactly the same as a year ago. Continued belittling of those that are not embracing this software as irrational luddites and haters because we say meanie things against Apple…

    Honestly, the ones who haven’t really moved on here are the Apple fanatics…only now you are getting worse because there have been “updates”….

  • Marvin Holdman

    April 19, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    There are some legitimate reason’s to be heaved at the mighty Apple. If you don’t understand that, it doesn’t mean everyone is a “hater”, it just means you don’t understand it. That’s all.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Z0H8CHPIU

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  • Jason Jenkins

    April 19, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    [Andrew Kimery] “Why can’t everyone just agree that painting with broad strokes (whether that broad stroke is to call people that don’t like FCPX dinosaurs or to call people that do like FCPX un-pro) is a major hindrance to having a rational discussion and just stop doing it?”

    Yeah. And how about that broadcast monitoring?!

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