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FCPX Broadcast Monitoring in action
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[Andrew Kimery] “Why can’t everyone just agree that painting with broad strokes (whether that broad stroke is to call people that don’t like FCPX dinosaurs or to call people that do like FCPX un-pro) is a major hindrance to having a rational discussion and just stop doing it?
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Well said
Steve Connor
“FCPX Professional”
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I actually agree with much of what has been said here regarding Apple, even if it comes across as sour grapes. That is why in my original post I said Apple needed to learn some things, after the launch of X (its’ not an iPod!!!). I would go so far as to say the launch was disastrous. Rather than freak out, I took a breath, rolled up my sleeves and learned a fantastic new app. I spent $400 on a new edit suite, and within 4 weeks I had made 30x that cost by using it. Am I a fanboy? Hell yeah. Because Apple is forward thinking, and egalitarian.
FCPX was pro out of the gate, but just not usable for every pro. Now, with the broadcast monitoring close to perfect, I would argue it is. Long format or short, broadcast or YouTube, it is a pretty brilliant software considering how young it is.
E. Parker Andersen – Seventhree Productions
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I don’t like it.
Magnetic trackless timeline is stupid. Renaming things is stupid. A project isn’t an event. The world cup is an event. The queen’s jubilee is an event. Your project is not an event. No manual save is insane. This is not an upgrade to fcp7 which is how it was sold. Marketing spin is insulting… It doesn’t background render, stop saying it does. But more than anything EOLing the software I had invested 8 years of my life in after making me wait for the awesome upggrade which never came is the rudest a company has ever been to me and for that alone I always hold apple in contempt when it comes to anything other than their toys, which they do well.
I don’t like it and I don’t see it as professional software. Anyone who uses the argument that they make money from it so it is pro… That’s a stupid argument. I could cut pieces and be paid for them on pinnacle studio 9. Why? Because I have a degree of aptitude for framing my shots when i shoot and narrative when I edit. If I do that for a job, is pinnacle studio 9 pro? In fact I could do it on iMovie. Is that pro now?
I don’t hate fc10 as an independent entity. I do think it is stupid. When they finally hack tracks back into it and add a manual save I may even consider trying to again. But I do hate apple for dumping on my work life which is taxing enough as it is and pretending fc10′ was an upgrade. In fact was THE upgrade to rule them all.
What I really dislike is the almost acolyte defence of it on here with incessant digs as those who mock fc10 in the context of it being an upgrade to fcp7 WHICH IS HOW IT WAS SOLD TO US and the impact it has had on our work lives. Which is what we had been made to wait for for 2 bloody years. Which is what kept us on expensive macs. Which made us pump more money into third party plugins, most of which are now going to be redundant soon.
Sure, my thousands of pounds are but a few lines of Charlie on a handful of hookers backsides at the Christmas party for apple, but for me they are a lot.
But hey, I’m in the wrong because I don’t get where the puck is going to be. I’m scared of change. I’m a hater. I’m irrational. I should let it go. I’m holding it wrong. I just don’t get it. I’m not willing to persevere. I don’t work on leverage or some post house in Germany. I am just wrong.
Haterism doesn’t materialise in a vacuum.
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Dang. Sorry everyone, I got sidetracked into discussing the launch again. It’s addicting. Actually I’m glad Apple/FinalCut is cutting-edge and controversial again. I miss those days when I was a rebel for thinking I could use FCP from home for quality video work.
I was actually curious to hear others’ take on the Broadcast monitoring. I wanted to hear of any potential problems since I’ve been starting to use it in earnest for actual delivery on HDCAM tape.
Glad to see there is still so much passion out there. My core belief is that it is about the art, not the canvas, and I love using Avid and Adobe products as well (and I look forward to learning Smoke better).
E. Parker Andersen – Seventhree Productions
Shooter, Cutter, 2D/3D Graphics and FX
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[Eric Parker Andersen] “My core belief is that it is about the art, not the canvas”
That is exactly why the argument will live on. I believe it’s about the canvas. The “art” is only within my control to a certain degree, but what little control I do have, I feel the most creative on the most flexible canvas around…that being FC-PRO-7
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The art is what ultimately matters but the paint, the brushes and the canvas etc., all play a part in the creation of the art.
Back on topic…
Reliable b-cast monitoring was one of the big things I was waiting for X to get back before I’d even contemplate giving it a serious look. Glad to hear that that seems to be one more thing I can check off my list.
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[Eric Parker Andersen] “Dang. Sorry everyone, I got sidetracked into discussing the launch again. It’s addicting. Actually I’m glad Apple/FinalCut is cutting-edge and controversial again. I miss those days when I was a rebel for thinking I could use FCP from home for quality video work.
I was actually curious to hear others’ take on the Broadcast monitoring. I wanted to hear of any potential problems since I’ve been starting to use it in earnest for actual delivery on HDCAM tape.
“I’m afraid the word “haters” tends to bring out the same old arguments again. Nerves are still raw even a year on.
Still glad to hear that the Broadcast monitoring is working well for you
Steve Connor
“FCPX Professional”
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[Jamie Franklin] “Honestly, the ones who haven’t really moved on here are the Apple fanatics…only now you are getting worse because there have been “updates”….”
Based on some of the other posts on this thread it’s not just the Apple “fanatics” who haven’t moved on
Steve Connor
“FCPX Professional”
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It’s true, the term ‘haters’ could set off a full scale east coast vs west coast hip hop situation!
I haven’t posted on here for a couple years but I’ve been trying to figure out why every time I tell a colleague I really like X the same scowl and shaking of heads immediately follows. The conversation really can’t continue without both parties having an open mind.
It puts everything at a disadvantage. I know in my case I had to learn FCP after knowing Avid, eventually I liked it better but it was tough! Less hoops to jump through, which is why I have grown to like X so much. It took three days of several hours and repeating tutorials in order to start to even do anything in it. I had to put in the work to learn it in order to make up my own mind. It really is a rethinking of everything that had become habit.
I was doing the finishing on a feature when X dropped and no update to FCP7. Initially I was pretty miffed, 32bit really sucks when you are on a 12 core mac pro monster using a quarter of it’s abilities. I fired up FCPX tried it out for an hour, said #%@* this and put it away until I had a personal project. FCP7 did and still does what it always did. But the more and more I used FCPX without the pressure of a deadline, the more I grew to like it. No more transcoding to prores, bins already made on ingest, no more making sure I have my tracks laid out for protools, I could go on, but I have to say it’s a pretty great leap forward from FCP7 since it’s been updated.
As for last summer, the feature was sold and now I’m generating 1080p 5.1 deliverables to go to HDCAMSR using roles, it’s been much easier. Had the FCPX/Resolve workflow been around when it was being finished, it would have been much less work.
Avid and CS# have their place, I think whatever tools an individual artist works best with is great. I just hope that rather than referring to people in the discussion as haters or fanboys we can ask ourselves if we have given it an honest try before dismissing something completely.
p.s. my intensity pro card on my home setup on X is working better than it does in 7. I feel like it’s almost ready for primetime.
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[Chris Kenny] “The chief argument against FCP X these days seems to be that people don’t trust Apple”
That’s just one of a number of reasons.
Until the most recent release, 1.0.4 I believe, it was incredibly buggy and many of those on this forum who really love the design simply couldn’t use it for paying work. By all accounts the latest release is a lot better, but that been what – 2 whole weeks out of the last year. Version 1 it might be, but why would a working editor want to base his paycheck on that kind of performance.
Next, the magnetic timeline is not to everyone’s liking, to say it mildly. For many it is the answer to a question that they weren’t asking. FCPX has a distinct design style and for many editors it runs counter to the way they work. Since Apple chose to re-invent the wheel, it’s not surprising that those who simply wanted a better wheel are not enthusiastic.
Finally there is Apple itself. Yes, many editors no longer trust Apple. I guess they’re all delusional, it must be something in the water they don’t drink. Or maybe it’s just the silence, the lack of communication. The unavoidable comparison between Adobe and Apple, and even between the “new” Avid and Apple, as far as communicating a vision for the product over the next few years contributes as much as anything to the distrust of Apple.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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