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  • Franz Bieberkopf

    April 3, 2013 at 11:51 pm

    Dear Craig,

    How many ways can you dance without numbers?

    Don’t make me numberwang.

    Franz.

  • Bill Davis

    April 4, 2013 at 12:23 am

    While Phil didn’t give specific numbers (which few private businesses ever do) he did make it very clear that they’ve been selling a particular tool for network level workflow use into the FCP-Legacy market for some time – and now that very tool is selling more for the FCP-X market then it’s selling for Legacy.

    Unless you’re making the backhanded allegation that Phil lacks either honesty, integrity or credibility (the exact opposite of the truth in my experience knowing him for some years) – it’s a view of real world sales that should be seen as carrying some weight.

    Phil’s not the kind of guy who needs to BS about anything.

    So address the facts or not. But Craig’s post is on-topic, and Phil’s opinions are those of a legitimate developer who has done video oriented production tools for quite some time.

    Simple as that.

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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    April 4, 2013 at 12:26 am

    come on craig.

    Phillip Hodgetts has been known to give forth, at editing panels, from the audience, about where FCPX is supposedly going.

    Mark Raudinos, as I recall, was at one. I watched as Hodgetts literally roared at the broad editing cross platform editing panel about FCPX from the audience.
    He’s pretty passionate.

    Full confession: I’ve been – maybe over vociferous – on Hodgett’s blogs, and rightly banned as a result. I duly apologised.

    but: it is beyond ridiculous to view Phillip as a NYT op-ed when he is completely financially vested in FCPX across multiple software products.

    No more than ripple training – he is a guy on the line chasing a very long tail of prosumer to mid level pro for software and training cash.

    He’s not an independent financial analyst – he’s a guy trying to bump the FCPX ecosystem on his blog.

    to be fair – most of this noise is emanating from the grave of FCP – it was a gold mine populariser – and so thats where you get phillip, steve martin and the ripple training guys trying very hard to reset the ecosystem for the mid term on their terms.

    Personally?
    I rather look forward to a good cottage industry of PPro supplementary software and training professionals over the next 24 months. Nicely mixed in with prelude, audition and the rest.

    A changing of the guard as it were.

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  • Herb Sevush

    April 4, 2013 at 3:00 am

    [Bill Davis] “While Phil didn’t give specific numbers (which few private businesses ever do) he did make it very clear that they’ve been selling a particular tool for network level workflow use into the FCP-Legacy market for some time – and now that very tool is selling more for the FCP-X market then it’s selling for Legacy.”

    Yes, so we now know that you can sell more plug-ins for an actual NLE than for one that has been EOL’d for almost 2 years. Bravo. Since no one has bought a new seat of Legacy for almost two years I would imagine that selling new plug-ins for it is not exactly a robust business, sort of like booking dinner reservations on the Titanic the night it went down. It’s good to see the X crowd raising the bar of their expectations – what’s next, the news that more copies of X have been sold this year than SONY 9000’s.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Charlie Austin

    April 4, 2013 at 3:31 am

    I think everyone who’s plugging *any* NLE has an agenda. There are people who like X and they say so. There are people who like Pr or MC and they say so. There are a ton of people who are very mad at mean old Apple for EOL’ing Classic, so their comments are driven to some extent by that agenda. Oddly, I don’t read a lot of posts from X supporters, here or anywhere else, bashing other NLE’s. I’m sure there probably are some, but most of the bashing is coming in the other direction. This thread is a perfect example. Craig posted a link to an article positing a *possible* positive sign for os X. It took um… one post to sh*t on it. Now it’s time to pile on right?

    I really like X, so I say so. I acknowledge it’s shortcomings as I see them. And while I might bring up things I don’t like about other NLE’s, I don’t need to piss all over them when I do that. It’s really sort of pointless. I think Philip is just reporting what he sees. Does he have an ulterior motive? Maybe. So what.

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    ~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

  • Walter Soyka

    April 4, 2013 at 4:00 am

    I wouldn’t say that Mr. Hodgetts has an agenda so much as he has a vision: intelligent use of metadata makes post-production better. He’s been building tools around this idea for years, and he’s identified FCPX as the best and most natural fit around the kinds of workflows he’s been preaching since before they were practical.

    He and Greg Clarke are a couple of seriously brilliant people, and their work is making FCPX better.

    Personally, I am glad to see people passionate about their tools and I hope to see them profit handsomely from their efforts to make great products that people want to use.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Charlie Austin

    April 4, 2013 at 4:05 am

    [Walter Soyka] “I wouldn’t say that Mr. Hodgetts has an agenda so much as he has a vision: intelligent use of metadata makes post-production better. He’s been building tools around this idea for years, and he’s identified FCPX as the best and most natural fit around the kinds of workflows he’s been preaching since before they were practical.

    He and Greg Clarke are a couple of seriously brilliant people, and their work is making FCPX better.

    Personally, I am glad to see people passionate about their tools and I hope to see them profit handsomely from their efforts to make great products that people want to use.”

    Yep. Not only brilliant, but incredibly responsive to end users. Philips e-book, “Conquering the metadata foundations of Final Cut Pro X” is a great read. It’s $5 though. The horror. :-0

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    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
    ~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

  • Franz Bieberkopf

    April 4, 2013 at 4:21 am

    [Bill Davis] “So address the facts or not. But Craig’s post is on-topic …”

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “… to be fair – most of this noise is emanating from the grave of FCP”

    [Charlie Austin] “I think Philip is just reporting what he sees. Does he have an ulterior motive?”

    [Walter Soyka] “Personally, I am glad to see people passionate about their tools…”

    [Charlie Austin] “Yep. Not only brilliant, but incredibly responsive to end users.”

    Tipping point or not? I think that clears it up.

    Franz.

  • Charlie Austin

    April 4, 2013 at 4:24 am

    [Franz Bieberkopf] “Tipping point or not? I think that clears it up.”

    Clear as mud.

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    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
    ~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

  • Walter Soyka

    April 4, 2013 at 4:27 am

    [Franz Bieberkopf] “Tipping point or not? I think that clears it up.”

    Bringing it back on-topic, I see. A clever ruse!

    Tipping poing: The point at which a series of small ineffective changes acquires enough pressure or importance to cause a larger, more significant change.

    I don’t think that the changes to FCPX are small or ineffective, and while I have no doubt that FCPX has become more appropriate for more people, I’m not seeing any large significant change in my little corner of the industry, either.

    My vote is no, not a tipping point.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

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