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FCP X or not?
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I talked this year to a guy who was contracted to give talks and get feedback on new digital workflows at a bunch of different beeb broadcast centres – to my understanding the beeb is and has been road testing all the current systems exhaustively for ages now – there is some fcpx there – but avid is going nowhere in places like london or bristol and premiere is going to be the edit system of choice at worldwide – and is the edit system of choice for their upcoming main nature series – largely because it allows them to work with the material natively – that’s no small beans in terms of the footage volumes they deal with in nature – I know fcpx can do that, but to my knowledge no one is seriously considering fcpx for any of those areas.
because the beeb deals with so many outside production companies and directors now – they are largely reacting to demands outside of their control in terms of getting director requests to shoot epic and prepare appropriate pipelines for programmes that the bbc mightn’t think warrant shooting on epic – but they have to react to it.
that guy I talked to had zero awareness of X – i played it straight – and received no feedback or requests for it. That isn’t to say that the beeb don’t see a role for it. It definitely has some pretty well defined strengths and roles.
funnily enough craig slattery – who evangelises X heavily at the beeb was on the fifth floor at white city when I was in for a bit cutting promos for BBC worldwide showcase on the second floor a couple of months back. Some engineers there are aware of X, and reference craig putting it to work, but none of them seemed to be seriously considering it as a resource in a place that brings in freelancers. X has a real catch 22 problem there.
I thought about going up and saying hello to craig, er, but I somehow couldn’t bring myself to – much mutual mud slinging had been had like….https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[Walter Soyka] “This covers the base case for editors using animated templates.
For more advanced designers, I’ve developed an Ae technique using invisible text layers and expressions which allows the editor to hijack text entry fields for more generalized rigging.”Quite right. I believe this was done in response to what Apple did with Motion templates. Just as expressions was originally a response to Apple’s behaviors in Motion.
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Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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In the interest if full disclosure I’ll just quote the original message in its entirety. Veracity TBD.
Ollie Kenchington-
“I’m an Apple Certified Trainer for FCPX and am currently delivering back to back FCPX101 courses for the BBC. 20 of their staff editors are moving up to X from 7, with my guidance, and they LOVE it. Their lead editor told me that they edit (or re-edit) 30% of all the BBC’s output.”If (being the operative word) the above is true it sounds like more than testing, but actual adoption.
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[Oliver Peters] “Just as expressions was originally a response to Apple’s behaviors in Motion.”
AE had expressions years before Motion was released… v4.1 or 5.0 if I’m not mistaken.
Shawn
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[Walter Soyka] “For more advanced designers, I’ve developed an Ae technique using invisible text layers and expressions which allows the editor to hijack text entry fields for more generalized rigging.
https://www.keenlive.com/renderbreak/2014/06/rigging-ae-comps-with-the-new-t...”
Clever, I’m definitely stealing this. 🙂
Shawn
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WOW!
CS6 is a dinosaur.
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[Andy Field] “FCP X or any straightforward editor is perfect for quick turn around news”
It is, but the ironic thing is, the two stations here in town that are using it are not doing run and gun news with it.
The producer/editors are using it for specials, like cooking shows and fix up my crap home type shows.
They are using it for productions that were shot multi camera in the field and loving it.
When I come into these stations I only work on specify shows and never the actual news so I don’t know what they are doing for day to day news cutting. I will ask and report back.
I think that’s what I see as one of the main thing X is fighting.
Because it’s so user friendly and easy to learn it has the image that it can only do easy stuff.
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[Oliver Peters] “Quite right. I believe this was done in response to what Apple did with Motion templates.”
Well, I know that I sent my feature request in about a minute and half after I tried FCPX/M5 rigging…
Credit where it is due, the FCPX/M5 rigging integration is very elegantly done. It’s a great model.
[Oliver Peters] “Just as expressions was originally a response to Apple’s behaviors in Motion.”
[Shawn Miller] “AE had expressions years before Motion was released… v4.1 or 5.0 if I’m not mistaken.”
Yes, expressions in Ae predate Motion itself by 3 years. And expressions were by no means unique to Ae: pretty much every worthwhile animation package has them.
I think that behaviors were a response to expressions: in typical Apple style, they trade power for simplicity.
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Shawn Miller] “Clever, I’m definitely stealing this. :-)”
Please do! My little demo there only scratches the surface of what you could do.
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
@keenlive | RenderBreak [blog] | Profile [LinkedIn] -
[tony west] “It is, but the ironic thing is, the two stations here in town that are using it are not doing run and gun news with it.”
The issue is that at present, FCP X doesn’t integrate with any of the standard asset management and news script applications that are used in many newsrooms. If you have a newsroom structured around Avid solutions (NewsCutter, Interplay, ISIS, iNews), then it’s very hard to replace that with FCP X until all the other elements are available.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com
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