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Marcus Moore
June 26, 2014 at 2:28 pmMaybe it shouldn’t have taken this long, but ANY platform move (no matter how beneficial it would be) can take years at a given company, based on training and budgetary considerations.
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Tony West
June 26, 2014 at 3:06 pmIt’s always been a great fit for news to me.
Ground we have covered in past post.
I talked one station into switching to X and another has also with a third looking at it.
All these stations have their own web presence these days. Go right from the timeline to it with a click and the quality looks great.
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Herb Sevush
June 26, 2014 at 4:44 pm[Charlie Austin] “And, AFAIK, 7 still works in Yosemite, so there’s no deadline for 7 users yet…”
4K
Herb Sevush
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Oliver Peters
June 26, 2014 at 6:06 pmThe part that I think is more fundamentally important is the integration with graphics and a centralized design staff. Unlike AE and PPro or any other NLE, a staff of station group designers at one location can create specific station graphics as Motion templates that are easy for the editors to adapt. They simply use the templates inside their NLE, with restricted published parameters.
News and promo editors typically don’t dive into AE projects very much. They usually just work with “flattened” graphics and animations – or they pass off a base to the graphics department for finishing. With Motion templates, FCP X allows a whole new approach. Most of us have been exposed to that as plug-ins, but I suspect that’s not at all what Apple had in mind originally. Motion VFX seems to be the first company really utilizing the template structure this way. That’s what also stands out to me about the article.
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Charlie Austin
June 26, 2014 at 6:17 pm[Herb Sevush] “4K”
Sure, but you can still use the program with workarounds. The real “drop deadline” will be when the app ceases to function at all.
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Herb Sevush
June 26, 2014 at 6:33 pm[Charlie Austin] ” The real “drop deadline” will be when the app ceases to function at all.”
Actually there will be no deadline at all. When an OSX version becomes incompatible with FCP legacy some users will simply freeze the operating system. I froze mine at mountain lion. You can go on for years that way. Every user will have their own breaking point, mine was an increase in the use of 4K elements. For someone else it might be operating system compatibility, for others retirement.
Herb Sevush
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Jim Wiseman
June 26, 2014 at 7:02 pmIt ail be quite a while before news is done in 4K, or anything else in my opinion, and that works very well in FCPX now.
Jim Wiseman
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Gary Huff
June 26, 2014 at 8:38 pm[Marcus Moore] “It comes from a certified trainer”
Even more suspicious!
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Andy Field
June 26, 2014 at 9:34 pmHaving worked in news for decades, it’s a safe bet they chose FCP X for a number or reasons.
1 – quick and easy to learn for non-editors
2 – no yearly licensing and server maintenance fees
3 – straightforward nature of news – cut/cut and simple dissolves
4 – buy once – set for a whileand there is little or no time to log or add meta data tags in run and gun news. it’s dump the material on the drive, edit – upload or feed – on to the next event
in fact FCP X is overkill for most daily news operations – all the available effects will be lost on run and gun editors….
when NLE’s first appeared in news rooms, you saw the “Dissolve” happy pieces hit the air – wide to tight shot…lets dissolve! Why not, we can do it now…
FCP X or any straightforward editor is perfect for quick turn around news….and so is any other NLE for editors who take time to learn them.
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Walter Soyka
June 26, 2014 at 10:54 pm[Oliver Peters] “The part that I think is more fundamentally important is the integration with graphics and a centralized design staff. Unlike AE and PPro or any other NLE, a staff of station group designers at one location can create specific station graphics as Motion templates that are easy for the editors to adapt. They simply use the templates inside their NLE, with restricted published parameters.”
New in CC 2014, designers can create templates in Ae and publish the text layers, which are then editable in Premiere Pro:
https://helpx.adobe.com/after-effects/how-to/create-animated-text-titles.html
This covers the base case for editors using animated templates.
For more advanced designers, I’ve developed an Ae technique using invisible text layers and expressions which allows the editor to hijack text entry fields for more generalized rigging.
https://www.keenlive.com/renderbreak/2014/06/rigging-ae-comps-with-the-new-templates-feature/
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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