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  • Michael Gissing

    June 26, 2014 at 7:14 am

    The whole story sounds like it was written by someone who didn’t actually look beyond an Apple solution. If they used AE instead of Motion then the whole story would probably have been about 7 to Pr.

    It is good that his editors don’t need or want for anything but that doesn’t exactly mean a lot to people with different workflows.

  • Andrew Kimery

    June 26, 2014 at 7:43 am

    Maybe it’s because it’s late, but the mention of HDV doesn’t make sense to me. Is the person trying to use HDV as shorthand for High Def Video in general (as opposed to meaning the HDV codec)?

  • Charlie Austin

    June 26, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    [Michael Gissing] “If they used AE instead of Motion then the whole story would probably have been about 7 to Pr.”

    Definitely possible. But if it had been, would you have read it and then made the following comment?:

    [Michael Gissing] “but that doesn’t exactly mean a lot to people with different workflows.”

    Honestly, one of the reasons I posted this article was to see how quickly someone would come up with a reason that it didn’t mean anything. What took you so long? 🙂

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  • Mitch Ives

    June 26, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    Kind of makes sense to me. News environments need speed and FCP X has that. Given the “use it and throw it away” approach that news tends to have I wonder if they are using any of the meta data organizational stuff?

    As for missing features, in my experience, news stations aren’t really pushing the envelope when it comes to complexity, so they probably don’t feel anything is missing.

    The fact that they’re still shooting HDV was curious though… probably still flogging those JVC’s…

    Mitch Ives
    Insight Productions Corp.

    “Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill

  • Franz Bieberkopf

    June 26, 2014 at 1:35 pm

    [Charlie Austin] “Honestly, one of the reasons I posted this article was to see how quickly someone would come up with a reason that it didn’t mean anything.”

    Charlie,

    You get the forum that you make.

    Franz.

  • Marcus Moore

    June 26, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    Tangental to this (and sure to break Aindreas’ mind), someone on Facebook recently posted they’ve been training 20 BBC editors for the transition from 7 to X.

  • Charlie Austin

    June 26, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    [Franz Bieberkopf] “[Charlie Austin] “Honestly, one of the reasons I posted this article was to see how quickly someone would come up with a reason that it didn’t mean anything.”

    “Charlie,

    You get the forum that you make.”

    Sure… but it wasn’t the main reason for the post. I had that thought as I posted the article, I mainly thought it was an interesting transition story. Particularly the fact that, as 7 was still working, they kept doing what they were doing and just waited for X to be ready for their needs. I think that’s probably pretty common. And, AFAIK, 7 still works in Yosemite, so there’s no deadline for 7 users yet…

    [Franz Bieberkopf]

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    ~ My FCPX Babbling blog ~
    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
    ~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

  • Gary Huff

    June 26, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    [Marcus Moore] “someone on Facebook “

    Seems legit.

  • Franz Bieberkopf

    June 26, 2014 at 2:24 pm

    [Charlie Austin] ” I mainly thought it was an interesting transition story. Particularly the fact that, as 7 was still working, they kept doing what they were doing and just waited for X to be ready for their needs. I think that’s probably pretty common. And, AFAIK, 7 still works in Yosemite, so there’s no deadline for 7 users yet…”

    Charlie,

    This is much more interesting than your framing in the first post.

    My own perspective on the article – first is this bit on the transition to X, which is telling:

    “FCPX’s integration with Motion templates was the most anticipated benefit of an upgrade for the station, …”

    … secondly, again, we have the primary comparison of X to 7: 2014 and Apple still competing with EOL software from 2009 (as observed by both you and Michael). It’s a common refrain here and I don’t think it paints as flattering a picture of Apple’s capabilities as some think it does.

    Franz.

  • Marcus Moore

    June 26, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    Caveats, of course. It comes from a certified trainer who says he’s in the middle of 2 back to back FCPX courses at the BBC.

    I read it this morning, and just thought that I’d toss it in here. Though I’m not sure which part of the BBC it is he’s talking about- news, drama, documentary.

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