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FCP X or not?
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hey – it could be true – i look forward to his posts on fcp.co in the near future.
whatever happened to https://www.10dot1.co.uk/ ?
they were big on fpc.co before the website started to periodically go down.
still – “20 of their staff editors are moving up to X from 7… Their lead editor told me that they edit (or re-edit) 30% of all the BBC’s output.”
so as I understand it, twenty editors, trained by him in the BBC, are editing or re-editing 30% of BBC output. okedoke. that all seems in order.
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https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[Charlie Austin]
[Michael Gissing] “but that doesn’t exactly mean a lot to people with different workflows.”
Honestly, one of the reasons I posted this article was to see how quickly someone would come up with a reason that it didn’t mean anything. What took you so long? 🙂So your motive for posting was to get the negative response that you wanted. Hardly an edifying reason.
Sorry I didn’t actually give you that. If I said it meant nothing then fine but if you read my response I actually said it doesn’t mean a lot to people with different workflows. I think a fair comment and certainly not saying it doesn’t mean anything. Indeed saying his editors didn’t need or want for anything is in fact a compliment to how it works in that situation. If you read that as saying it is meaningless then fine.
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[Oliver Peters] “The issue is that at present, FCP X doesn’t integrate with any of the standard asset management and news script applications that are used in many newsrooms.”
That might be true, but that didn’t stop the stations here from using it. Nor did it stop the station that this article is about.
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[tony west] “that didn’t stop the stations here from using it. Nor did it stop the station that this article is about.”
Correct. They might not use those tools. Based on the article, this station was in an FCP “legacy” environment, so these issues never applied to them in the first place. Plus, there’s this: “Crews typically edit in the field and send their work back to the station via FTP or through WXYZ microwave trucks.” This is a situation where X is good at, but not necessarily the way most stations operate.
By comparison, I freelance occasionally as well as do training at a local station. They are transitioning from FCP to Premiere Pro in the commercial department and from NewsCutter to Premiere Pro in news promos. Hard news is still Avid NewsCutter. Some of the promos they do are integrally tied to the Avid workflow. As such, they’ll probably still have to hang on to an Avid workstation in each promo edit bay, just to be able to do those promos.
It’s not that some Adobe workflow doesn’t exist, but rather doing that would mean a much larger infrastructure change.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “so as I understand it, twenty editors, trained by him in the BBC, are editing or re-editing 30% of BBC output. okedoke. that all seems in order.”
Yeah, I don’t get that statement either. If true, they must be talking about a percentage of work for a specific group or division.
BBC just isn’t centralized (or small) enough for that statement to be possible.
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yeah – but craig slattery really has put it into effect – for the bit I was there the engineers at worldwide really actually did refer to him.
As long as they’re not relying on freelancers – which is flat-out a problem for X – then they might decide to apply it like gangbusters internally with staff for all I know. As far as I can tell slattery was performing close to a time and motion study cutting down edit times for magazine shows.X in terms of apprehension and tagging of footage is aces really.
otoh – i heard from someone at disney that they are going premiere – he said that they tendered to avid, adobe and apple coming off 7.
the situation they got into with apple sounded brief and funny – when they put out the tender apple came back with a ton of X boiler plate – when disney replied with specific concerns, particularly on group workflows, apple basically just re-sent the marketing materials for X. there was nobody home. and that’s disney UK.
If the beeb do make use of X, you’d think they would do it with oven mitts given the software vendor they’re dealing with.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[Marcus Moore] “BBC just isn’t centralized (or small) enough for that statement to be possible.”
Like most networks, FCP X will probably appear in pockets here and there. Not as across-the-board decisions. A lot of broadcasters and networks also have a large and separate web presence and cut separate content for that. That’s also an area where X might crop up more and more.
– Oliver
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[Oliver Peters] ” Hard news is still Avid NewsCutter.”
Not in this market.
Two of them were coming from 7 and the NBC affiliate is Edius
That’s why I didn’t hesitate to convince them to leave 7
They are loving X
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That just doesn’t jive with what I’ve heard about the X team spending lots of time (not publicly, mind you) trying to get the software into more complex workflows where they see an opportunity.
That said, depending on what Disney meant by “collaborative”, X may just not be ready for their needs in whatever timeframe Disney UK needed.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “otoh – i heard from someone at disney that they are going premiere – he said that they tendered to avid, adobe and apple coming off 7.”
Disney has decided on Adobe across the board – Disney, ABC, etc. However this applies to new set-ups, not tossing out one for the other. So you’ll still see a lot of Avid there for a long time. On the TV side, they were never a big FCP place. That tended to affect internal corporate, more than anything else.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com
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