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  • Exporting in uncompressed 8 bit PAL, it cuts a minute off the film every time

    Posted by Shari Due on December 2, 2012 at 7:11 am

    The film is 50:32, but every time I export to this format (which is what my client has requested) it cuts off at 48:33. Weird. I’ve cleared and reset in and out points–doesn’t matter–video and audio or audio only–still does the same thing. Even tried to do parts of footage. Whatever I compress in this format it cuts off 2 minutes before the outpoint. Anyone know what’s going on?
    Thanks so much!

    Shari

    Neil Patience replied 13 years, 8 months ago 5 Members · 17 Replies
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  • Nick Meyers

    December 2, 2012 at 10:38 am

    what format (including frame rate) is your footage, and your sequence?

    nick

  • Shari Due

    December 2, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    My footage is HD 1080/24p, sequence is 24 fps, frame size 720 x 480, pixel aspect is ntsc-ccir 601. Can it not be converted to PAL uncompressed at this point?
    Shari

    Shari

  • Rafael Amador

    December 2, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    I would start by trashing FC preferences.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Shari Due

    December 2, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    Okay. I did that. And I just made a sequence with uncompressed 8 bit PAL settings and copied my NTSC sequence into it. It’s two minutes shorter but didn’t cut off the end, so I’ll see what it looks like after rendering. It’s a diff in frame rate (?) or something betw NTSC and PAL. Hope I can make this work! Any other ideas?

    Shari

  • Shari Due

    December 2, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    So I see that I need to remove 5 fps to convert from NTSC to PAL? How can this be done when the footage is already shot, transferred and fully edited in a sequence? I just made a sequence with uncompressed, 8 bit PAL and copied the NTSC sequence into it and it messed everything up.

    Shari

  • Steve Eisen

    December 2, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    [shari due] “I just made a sequence with uncompressed 8 bit PAL settings and copied my NTSC sequence into it”

    Not the correct workflow. You need to convert your footage with Compressor or use Nattress Standards Conversion.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Vice President
    Chicago Creative Pro Users Group

  • Shari Due

    December 2, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    Do I convert it clip by clip, taking each clip from the browser and then converting, then reimporting? This is a mess. I clearly should have researched it first. Please advise on the simplest way to do this. Thanks so much.

    Shari

  • Shari Due

    December 2, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Hi Steve.
    I looked at Natress. It seems like the simplest way to do this. Have you used Nattress successfully to convert a fully edited sequence from NTSC to PAL?
    Thanks.

    Shari

  • Neil Patience

    December 2, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    Hi Shari

    You cant just drop an NTSC sequence into a PAL timeline and render it as you have obviously discovered. To be honest the correct and best way to deal with this is to create your NTSC master and then have a hardware standards conversion using Tenerex or something similar to create a proper PAL master.
    I have used the Natress Standards Converter plug in and it does work. Although I have never used it on a whole show, more usually just odd clips that I have needed to convert. However its certainly worth a try. I would export a quicktime of your complete programme and then try using Natress on that as a single clip.

    best wishes
    Neil
    http://www.patience.tv

  • Shari Due

    December 2, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    Thanks Neil. Live and learn. I’m trying Nattress and if that doesn’t work (won’t know until 5 more hours of rendering), I’ll try importing the .mov of the whole show, then converting with Nattress. Problem is my client wants this exported uncompressed so she can import it into her FCP and add Arabic subtitles. If I import my .mov it’s already compressed.
    I’m not a techie at all, but a producer/director, storyteller. It’s been a while since I’ve made a mistake this big. But this is new territory for me, the PAL, and I certainly should have researched it better going in. Good thing I did this one dirt cheap.

    I appreciate this group so much. Thanks y’all.

    Shari

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