Explain plosives and syllabytes

[Charley King]

I’m not sure I even know what you are talking about. I always just made the edit where it felt good, If it don’t feel good, there ain’t no theory that works. So I guess I edit on the feel good nethod.

Charlie

[Stylz]

wow, really. Plosives are p’s, t’s, b’s, d’s. Don’t know the exact definition. I have no clue what syllabytes are(nor how to spell it correctly) which is probably why I came up with nothing on yahoo search(thus resorting to this forum).

[Vito Defilippo]

Syllables maybe?

[Stylz]

no.

[Tore Gresdal]

I have a book called Audio Postproduction for Digital video by Jay Rose which has an entire chapter on editing dialog. And page 183-191 is dedicated to Phonetic-based editing.

Quote from that introduction of chapter:
We could predict exactly which tiny sounds made up “the small pot” or “my name Jay” because there aren’t very many ways humans move their mouths during speech. Standard american english uses only about three dozen of them.
Tables below show them organized into groups based on their usefulnes to editors. Note how there’s no phoneme for c, because it’s sometimes /s/ and sometimes /k/. But there are 15 phonemes and dipthongs for the five vowels. That’s why, when your scanning a script or transcript to find replacement sounds or likely edits, it helps to say the word aloud. The two columns -unvoiced and voiced- have to do with how the sound is generated. You’ll see why this is important later in this chapter.

ISBN on the book is:1578201160

Regards
Tore Gresdal

Here’s the direct link if you want:

[Tim Kolb]

I suspect this is because the viewer is already getting a sort of “impact point” when a plosive is spoken and it will make the audio edit much less obvious than say, editing in the middle of a vowel sound, which may make the cut more obvious…

I think there are several books out on basic audio production as well as Jay Rose’s book, which is excellent.

Lots of choices…

TimK
Kolb Syverson Communications
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2004, 2005 NAB Post Production Conference Premiere Pro Technical Chair
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[Steven L. gotz]

I think he meant Sibilants

https://www.screensound.gov.au/glossary.nsf/Pages/Sibilants?OpenDocument

Steven
Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 / After Effects 6.5 Pro https://www.stevengotz.com
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Contributing Writer, PeachPit Press, Visual QuickPro Guide, Premiere Pro 1.5

[Stylz]

yes thats it. Thanks.

[Tore Gresdal]

BTW: I remember someone told me once that you could give your subject a glass of water to reduce plosives in the mic. They usually get a very dry mouth from nervousness and that causes more pops in the microphone. Dunno if it applies to sibilants as well… but worth a try…

Regards
Tore Gresdal

[Charley King]

Thanks for the explanations. As for editing, I still edit where it feels good.

Charlie