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  • EDL Breakdown.

    Posted by Ariel Spalter on August 6, 2014 at 6:16 pm

    Hello everybody, this is my first post here. My situation goes like that:
    The post production manager I work with needs to fill out a music sheet summarizing the total usage of music for royalties clearance. He needs the following info: track name (appears as the clip name), total duration of each track and the sequence T.C (.i.e, where it was heard along the episode). currently he’s been doing that the old fashioned way of jumping cut by cut, selecting IN-OUT, typing the duration in the calculator and fill the seq T.C in his sheet. Now, that’s the catch: Media Composer’s Bin doesn’t have a seq T.C column, only source T.C, so it can not be done within Media Composer. What I’m looking for is basically an application that can break an EDL file down to its components and summing the durations of each file NAME (appearing in sequence multiple times), so ultimately I’ll end up with a sheet containing the total duration for each file name and where it was located in the sequence.

    I’d be glad for any clue, and if there is a hidden way of doing that within MC it’d be even better.

    Many thanks,
    Ariel

    Michael Phillips replied 11 years, 9 months ago 4 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Michael Phillips

    August 7, 2014 at 1:35 am

    You could try the following:

    Subsequence out just the music elements to a new bin
    This will now show sequence TC for START END and DURATION
    Select all sequences and do a get bin info which should total up the duration.

    Or, in the future, use the AMA plug-in and AAF reporting app I developed just for this issue/workflow and can be seen here with a demo video:

    https://www.mus-id.com

    You do have to bring the songs in via the plug-in to start in order for the reporting app to know which elements are songs.

    Michael

  • Ariel Spalter

    August 7, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    Hi Michael,
    Thanks you very much for your comment.how haven’t I thought of such a simple way of doing that? I’ve watched the vid in the link and that’s just BRILLIANT. Is it available for purchasing at the moment (you’ve mentioned “in the future..”).

    EDIT: The way of doing that inside Avid won’t work unfortunately because subsequence won’t retain the clip names (.i.e the track name), and autosyncing it will turn back to the source T.C instead of the sequence T.C. oh, well… I just saw your that the app is available at your site. just a couple of questions: does it work only along with the AMA plugin or it can be used separately? and, can it sum duration of multiple clips (if I want to select a bunch of clips derived from the same master clip)?

    Thanks again,
    Ariel

  • Michael Phillips

    August 7, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    Please buy it NOW, baby needs shoes!

    🙂

    Michael

  • Shane Ross

    August 7, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    This specifically mentions MP3 and M4A. But what about audio that’s AIFF, WAV, BWAV? The normal GOOD file types?

    And what’s your twitter handle so I can tweet out this app, and link you…?

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Ariel Spalter

    August 7, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    BTW, I just figured out that the reporting app will work only for the AMA clips. That’s too bad. I really think that you should consider making this app so it would be able to handle all sort of media, including visuals like Image Bank and the like. Enabling that plus summing durations of clips with identical names and/or any selected clips and you could charge 50$ for a comprehensive solution for that frustrating chore. If something like that was in existence, I would buy it right away.

  • Michael Phillips

    August 7, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    I can only do what the AMA license from Avid allows me to do. Avid has a marketplace for stock footage already so they want/will be handling that as part of their Avid Everywhere vision.

    Also, I have to use AMA as it is one of the few methods by which third parties can intercept/parse, inject metadata when linking to media that works at the Media Composer only level.

    Michael

  • Michael Phillips

    August 7, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    WAVE does not store ID3 metadata- there is an ID3 blob in AIFF files that we are looking into. Also, Avid has a BWF/iXML AMA plug-in that in theory would parse that for those file formats.

    The workaorund for these files types is extracting the metadata from the AME linked file, consolidate, and reimport higher quality file as a batch import. I will be testing this and writing something up.

    I don’t really have a twitter account… I know, I know, I should.

    Michael

  • Shane Ross

    August 7, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    All we need is source name and TC IN and TC OUT for music cue. Can’t you make something like that? There’s a great app for FCP/Premiere Pro called SEQUENCE CLIP REPORTER that uses XML and organizes it VERY neatly. A godsend for those who stare at complicated EDLs. Avid needs something like that. Perhaps via AAF.

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Ariel Spalter

    August 7, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    Thank God, Shane , you took the words out of my keyboard. All the info required is part of AAF already: Source T.C IN-OUT, Sequence T.C IN-OUT, Clip Names. That’s it. The reporter should be able to let you handle this information in different ways (some of them I mentioned just a couple of posts earlier). I can assure you- such a solution will save tons of time and people will not hesitate to buy it even if it costs 50$.

  • Shane Ross

    August 7, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    We use SEQUENCE CLIP REPORTER in PPro and FCP for this very reason. WELL WORTH the $99. And every Producer I show that to snaps it up in a heartbeat.

    I’ve even gone as far as to use Automatic Duck to convert Avid sequences to FCP (no media needed) simply to do this report. I do that quite often, actually.

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

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