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Editing Disconnected Audio
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[Charlie Austin] “Oh yes you can. 🙂 As John said, you can of course assign a clips role in the Event. But… You can also choose “Open in Timeline” for a multichannel source that’s in the Event, and assign Roles to the individual Components. Before you cut it into anything. It’s very nice. :-)”
Certainly, but I guess I consider “open in timeline” a timeline.
For instance, I can select as many clips in my browser as i want that have the same number of audio channels, decide the channel config, name the channels, and select which ones I want to use, it’s awesome. I cannot, however, add a Role to each of those channels with all of those clips selected in a browser. I can add it to the entirety of the clip (which is all the channels), but not each individual channel. For that, I need a timeline.
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] ” I cannot, however, add a Role to each of those channels with all of those clips selected in a browser. I can add it to the entirety of the clip (which is all the channels), but not each individual channel. For that, I need a timeline.
“Ahh, gotcha… On a related note… one little can of worms that gets opened when assigning roles to components relates to our imagined Role Grouping/Color Coding workflow. That being… when using the TL index to highlight a Role.. a clip containing components of varying Roles is *always* highlighted when any Role it contains is selected. Slight annoyance there. So.. If they color code Roles.. How’s that gonna work? Stripes? 🙂 Also, in which Role group does a multi role clip live? User selectable? Who knows.
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[John Davidson] “X seriously doesn’t care if the clip with the cut up audio is blue with video or green with none.”
Very true but… (in my best Don LaFontaine voice…) In a World… where editors send spots out to be finished on systems that do care about such things, this could create some very… interesting results.
No? 🙂
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Stripes sounds good, yes. 🙂
I am ok with a clip being highlighted (highlit?) when one Role is selected but it contains multiple audio Roles. Expanding audio components would solve that.
Another thing about Roles on components is that you can have an audio role for each component, and a separate role for the clip, which can look funny in the role index as well, and cause weirdities on x2pro exports, but easy to work around.
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It has no effect on pro tools for us. In actual editing though, as you saw, we do whatever we like on the creative edit and when we deliver a final we detach all audio and bring in the mix. This is the exact same process we’d do if sending to resolve or color, etc. We’d just delete the lower layers of video at that point as well. You’re doing it all up front, and we’re doing the same thing but at the very end of the process. I think ours has less steps, but it’s your journey man ;).
John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.
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Here’s a funny little thing. We totally don’t care about roles anymore since X2Pro pretty much automates everything for us. I suppose if we really cared and had a huge edit we would feel more motivated to work with roles. Then again, even a sizzle that we worked on for 2 months and delivered last week – never touched a role in it.
John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.
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[Charlie Austin] “Very true but… (in my best Don LaFontaine voice…) “
I worked with Don a little, but my “In a World…” guy was Percy Rodriguez. I worked A LOT with him. I actually did an “In a World…” trailer with Percy to Carmina Burana back in the early ’90s when such things were still fresh. Yes… In a time where Carmina Burana was still fresh. I’ve never figured out why Don was recognized as THE VOG. I know he had a press agent, which helped. Percy was great, though, and I quite liked working with him.
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[John Davidson] “Here’s a funny little thing. We totally don’t care about roles anymore since X2Pro pretty much automates everything for us. I suppose if we really cared and had a huge edit we would feel more motivated to work with roles. Then again, even a sizzle that we worked on for 2 months and delivered last week – never touched a role in it.”
I just want to be able to see where things are. I like to be able to navigate quickly by using the timeline as a map, so color-coding roles would give that to me.
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One time I asked Don to read so gritty he would ‘make babies cry’. It came out awesome.
John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.
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[Chris Harlan] “I worked with Don a little, but my “In a World…” guy was Percy Rodriguez. I worked A LOT with him. I actually did an “In a World…” trailer with Percy to Carmina Burana back in the early ’90s when such things were still fresh. Yes… In a time where Carmina Burana was still fresh.”
That’s pretty funny, because after I wrote that I started thinking about Percy, and couldn’t remember his last name. Had to Google it. Great voice, great guy. Don was really versatile, and fast. No multiple takes with him. 1 or 2, then move on.
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