Editing Disconnected Audio

[Chris Harlan]

[Jeremy Garchow] “I can keep so much information and choices stored and out of the way in X right in the timeline. It is an aspect of the X timeline that I like a lot.
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I could certainly get to like that, too.

[Steve Connor]

[Chris Harlan] “Color-coded roles could be the answer. All I really want is to be able to look and see exactly where everything is without having to click things on and off.”

I will be VERY surprised if this isn’t implemented in the next feature release, I hope everyone who uses FCPX has sent their feature request in for it!

Steve Connor

There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[Charlie Austin] ” But, if you think you might like to have instant access to your original sync, without matching back, or clicking a sync marker or whatever you’d “normally” do, just do this one extra 2-3 keystroke operation. This isn’t a workaround at all. It’s a new, and pretty useful, workflow technique. “

mmm.

[Charlie Austin] “I’ll admit that maybe sync markers would be nice for connected (disconnected) clips.”

seriously – charlie – they’re not nice, they’re basic no?

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[Jeremy Garchow]

I, too, think color coded, sortable Roles would be cool. We’ve talked about the nature of “Zones”.

For now, taking the time and naming audio components before editing, adding a Role once its in a timeline (unfortunately, you can’t add a Role to an individual component before it hits a timeline), or viewing the timeline with Role names instead of clip names helps to discern a timeline pretty quickly.

[John Davidson]

Jeremy, thanks for giving me something easy to correct you on.

You cannot assign specific roles before bringing a clip into a timeline. You CAN select clips in the event browser and hit Modiby/Assign Roles and you’re off to the races rolewise before a single edit is made.

Look at me, I’m smart!

John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

[Charlie Austin]

[Jeremy Garchow] “(unfortunately, you can’t add a Role to an individual component before it hits a timeline),”

Oh yes you can. 🙂 As John said, you can of course assign a clips role in the Event. But… You can also choose “Open in Timeline” for a multichannel source that’s in the Event, and assign Roles to the individual Components. Before you cut it into anything. It’s very nice. 🙂

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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[John Davidson]

Look, you guys have lots of options to Rube Goldberg X up all you like, detaching audio and doubling clips et al, but if all you’re trying to do is keep video straight up with tightened audio beneath, just splice the video and audio however you’d like the audio to be, and then trim the top layer of video/audio back like it was and pretend the 2nd video clip beneath is just audio. While your mouse is on the master clip, you can either mute the top layer audio using the volume bar, trim it to where you want it coming back in, or just turn it off in the ‘inssssspector (you have to say that with a lisp)’. 17 different way to accomplish the same underlying goal.

X seriously doesn’t care if the clip with the cut up audio is blue with video or green with none. What better sync marker on Earth is there than the actual video attached to a clip you’re treating like just audio?

John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

[Jeremy Garchow]

[John Davidson] “You cannot assign specific roles before bringing a clip into a timeline. You CAN select clips in the event browser and hit Modiby/Assign Roles and you’re off to the races rolewise before a single edit is made.”

You can assign Roles to an entire clip before editing, yes, but you can’t assign a Role to an individual audio component (channel) before it hits a timeline.

Screengrabs later.

[Charlie Austin]

[Jeremy Garchow] “You can assign Roles to an entire clip before editing, yes, but you can’t assign a Role to an individual audio component (channel) before it hits a timeline. “

Technically true, but if you right click an event clip and choose open in timeline, you can assign roles to that “master” clips components before you cut a frame into a sequence…

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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
~”The function you just attempted is not yet implemented”~

[Aindreas Gallagher]

[John Davidson] “While your mouse is on the master clip, you can either mute the top layer audio using the volume bar, trim it to where you want it coming back in, or just turn it off in the ‘inssssspector (you have to say that with a lisp)’. 17 different way to accomplish the same underlying goal.

X seriously doesn’t care if the clip with the cut up audio is blue with video or green with none. What better sync marker on Earth is there than the actual video attached to a clip you’re treating like just audio?”

nah – come on – I mean sure, but if this is going to gain wide spread adoption, Apple are mad if they think this hodge podge of routines on a magnetic timeline is a guarantee of anything but obscurity?

we – look – we all know this software is largely dead outside this forum. you guys can say any number of things about unseen people – but we kind of really know its true.

the point is that Apple made a mis-step, they thought they could parlay a living pro-marketplace brand into whatever they liked.

that has utterly failed.

Apple’s only recourse, if they value the network effect of underpinning media production (as opposed to adobe taking it) is to knuckle under, bow the knee, beg forgiveness, make tracks and homogenise their efforts to the pro market.

there are no hidden hordes coming to save them. FCPX is a dead, dead letter.

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