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  • DVCProHD to HDCAM

    Posted by Quinn Costello on April 6, 2007 at 1:37 am

    Hi-

    I apologize if this seems like a repetitive post but I can’t seem to get this figured out. I have a show that originated in HDV. I brought it in and edited in the DVCProHD codec using the 720p 59.94 DVCProHD codec. Now I need to output an HDCam master for eventual broadcast. I need to go to 8-bit uncompressed 1280X720. Any suggestions on how to do this? I’m using an Aja Kona LHe card so I can’t upconvert on the fly unfortunately. Thanks for all the help, cow.

    Gary Adcock replied 19 years, 1 month ago 9 Members · 22 Replies
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  • John Pale

    April 6, 2007 at 1:51 am

    You need to master to DVCPRO HD then send out your master to a dub house to be cross converted to HDCAM (which is 1080i)

    If you had the Kona 3 you could just output to tape, as the Kona 3 will cross convert for you.

  • Shane Ross

    April 6, 2007 at 2:35 am

    Or take your current sequence, drop it into a sequence that matches what you need to output, and render. That is what I had to do before the Kona 3 came out.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Quinn Costello

    April 6, 2007 at 3:03 am

    Thanks for the suggestions. Assuming I drop it into a sequence that matches what I need to output how do I conform the size? Do I just manually resize in the 1080i window? Also, the 59.94 frame rate seems to be causing problems in this regard. There doesn’t seem to be a sequence setting that accomodates this frame rate in the 1080i environment.

    Thanks,
    Quinn

  • Shane Ross

    April 6, 2007 at 3:16 am

    Who wants a 1080i60 master? Never heard of that deliverable. 1080p24 is the universal format…that can be converted to anything.

    1080i60 takes one HELLOVA fast RAID.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Quinn Costello

    April 6, 2007 at 3:28 am

    Hi Shane-

    I’m having a ton of synch issues in the 1080 24 sequence. Any idea what could be causing this. Thanks again!

    Quinn

  • David Battistella

    April 6, 2007 at 3:45 am

    What about media managing the sequence to an HD Uncomressed timeline, creating it offline and recapturing it all fromthe original HDV at 1080I ten bit preset through the LE>

    David

    Peace and Love 🙂

  • Shane Ross

    April 6, 2007 at 3:49 am

    [qcostello] “I’m having a ton of synch issues in the 1080 24 sequence. Any idea what could be causing this. Thanks again!”

    What sort of hard drive do you have this footage on?

    And David…Good idea. I am still shy of the MM. And upconverting like this and rendering produces pretty much the same result, without the online worry. But, it might be something to try.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • John Pale

    April 6, 2007 at 3:53 am

    Shane’s one of the sharpest people on the Cow, but I gotta disagree with him on this.

    If you don’t have the Kona 3, the best crossconversion option is getting it done on a hardware converter (terranex, aja, etc) at a dub house.

    If you cant afford that, you might want to try exporting a reference movie to Compressor. Use the DVCPROHD 1080i/60 Preset in “Advanced Format Conversions”.

    Bring the resulting file back into FCP, use the AJA DVCPROHD 1080i/29.97 Easy Setup. Then output to a HDCAM deck.

    You should not convert your media to 8 bit Uncompressed. That will get you nothing but an enormous file sizes (and one which your system probably will not be able to play).

    Once again. Simplest solution…output to the format you edited in. Everything else is really labor intensive and may not work to anyone’s satisfaction.

  • Shane Ross

    April 6, 2007 at 4:01 am

    [John Pale] “Shane’s one of the sharpest people on the Cow, but I gotta disagree with him on this”

    I welcome disagreement. I ain’t always right.

    [John Pale] “If you don’t have the Kona 3, the best crossconversion option is getting it done on a hardware converter (terranex, aja, etc) at a dub house.”

    That is true. But he wanted to output from his system, which is why I tried to keep it there.

    Before the Kona 3 came out, we had this issue. Take a 720p24 show and output a 1080p24 master. After a lot of consultation and testing, we arrived at the conclusion that dropping the footage into an 8-bit uncompressed HD timeline was as good as recapturing at 8-bit UC. And we were going to output thru a Kona 2. We got very good results. But, going UC I had to have a good RAID, which lead to me designing one inside my G5…with popsicle sticks. It worked, but made me nervous.

    ANYWAY…Uncompressed takes a lot of bandwidth, so try what John suggests. Sounds very viable.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Walter Biscardi

    April 6, 2007 at 10:03 am

    [Shane Ross] “Who wants a 1080i60 master? Never heard of that deliverable.”

    That’s what we deliver to the Food Network.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    Read my blog! https://blogs.creativecow.net/WalterBiscardi

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