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Documentary film look
Producing documentary for sale on DVD but also possible television broadcast. Filmed in widescreen using HVR Z1E and editing using final cut. Decided not to use the cine-film look included on camera but wish to add film effect. If I add a subtle strobe (1) in final cut or deinterlace the footage I get a decent effect, but will this effect broadcast issues. Would rather do it in final cut rather than go to after effects.
Cheers
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If you simply deinterlace you’re throwing away half your resolution. Use this within FCP:
https://www.nattress.com/filmEffects.htm
Ed
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Does this also mean the strobe set on 1 in Final Cut which adds a film strobe look does the same, and half the resolution?
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Don’t use the strobe for film effect. Film doesn’t strobe like that.
Use the Nattress Effects and you will be set.
Shane Ross
Alokut Productions
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Some people (not me though) have duplicated their movie and placed them on top of each other, de-interlaced one layer with UpperField,
set the other to 50% opacity and de-interlaced with Lower Field. They report that it looks pretty good. Google “FCP deinterlace film” and
you should get some hits for that, and other, cheap tricks.
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Remember to set field order to “upper” for HDV and you’re all set. Should look wonderful.
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
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Sorry just one more question using the nattress effects and turn the 50i pal to 25P how is this different to the final cut way of deinterlacing the footage. The technique Ed mentioned earlier I have tried that using After Effects and I wasn’t too impressed. I just want that Progressive film look.
Cheers
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The de-interlacer in Film Effects is much better than the in-built one in FCP. It keeps your resolution higher and has more controls to get the look right.
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
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I use the FCP ‘strobe of 1’ every week for broadcast and it gives a very good non-video, close to film feel. Combine that with good color correct to compensate for the thin DV saturation. I usually crush the blacks a little and increase the mids slightly and lower the highs.
Lighting plays a big part in any attempt to create a film look for video.
It *does not* create a ‘strobe’ effect; it merely simulates the fewer fps rate of film. I’ve often been asked what I shoot my footage on for commercial, short and broadcast work. I usually shoot DV or Beta, but the footage never looks like video.
I’ve done extensive experiments with ‘strobe of 1’ and the various flavors of de-interlace and personally I prefer ‘strobe of 1’ to de-interlace.
It does not create any broadcast difficulties whatsoever and is a great option for those who don’t have the spare cash. Also Quicktime (pro?) has a film effect as an export option.
pxlmvr
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Not trying to sell you on the idea, but to answer your comment: The technique I described *gives* you a
progressive image. The de-interlacing of one layer as upper-filed and the other as lower, and then blending
them with opacity, preserves both fields as one *progressive* image. Having said that, buy Graeme’s filter 🙂
Ed[Ross Marshall] “The technique Ed mentioned earlier I have tried that using After Effects and I wasn’t too impressed. I just want that Progressive film look.
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Strobe of 1 created an identical effect to using the FCP de-interlacer set to “upper”. You are basically throwing one field away, halving your vertical resolution, producing a fake 30p. Oh, and the FCP de-interlace renders faster too, and is also RT enabled.
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
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