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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy de interlace filter sucks !!!

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 29, 2008 at 9:15 pm

    Please show me an interlaced frame, or post a couple frames of video.

    Jeremy

  • Zach Rutledge

    September 29, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    Uh, do you believe me now??

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 29, 2008 at 9:30 pm

    Yep, thank you.

    When you deinterlace the footage, have you set your timeline to a field dominance of none?

  • Zach Rutledge

    September 29, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    I have tried all options, setting the sequences to none, with the deinterlace set to lower, I have even tried setting the sequence to lower and not deinterlacing the footage and tried both setting it to lower and deinterlacing the footage and I have also tried combination of the upper field just to see what it would do.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 29, 2008 at 9:57 pm

    Can you post a few frames of video in whatever codec you’re working in?

    Hvae you tried any plug ins? FCPs deinterlacer sucks.

    Have you tried Compressor?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 29, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    Wait a minute.

    I just reread your initial post and I missed the part about being shot in 24p. What you are seeing is pulldown and not traditional interlacing. That’s why I bet that first shot looks progressive, because it is. If you are delivering to NTSC tape, then what you are doing is futile as the motion characteristics will be totally messed up (deinterlacing pulldown will result in unnatural looking footage). And if you remove the pulldown, it will just get added again when you go back to tape and even monitor your footage.

    What are your delivery requirements?

    Jeremy

  • Zach Rutledge

    September 29, 2008 at 11:05 pm

    We go both to beta for tv and to web.

  • Tom Wolsky

    September 29, 2008 at 11:29 pm

    Yes that’s an interlaced frame. Please apply one of the recommended deinterlace filters and take a screen shot with your canvas set to 100%. The first images were not set to 100%. This is the first image that’s shown at 100%.

    I notice in an earlier message that you’re going to back to Beta and to the web. Could you explain why the material was shot at 24p with pulldown added? What was the point of that?

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

  • Zach Rutledge

    September 29, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    A colleague of mine, once I told him about your post and question, said he did not believe 24p had a pulldown but that the 24pa mode was the one with the pulldown. Is this not the case?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 29, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    All SD NTSC camera that record 24p record with pulldown. 24p and 24PA both have pulldown, just different cadences.

    Have your colleague read the FCP manual or this for more info:

    https://www.adamwilt.com/24p/#24pRecording

    Now, since you are delivering to Beta, you don’t really have to remove the pulldown as your tape is 29.97 and so is your sequence. For the web, you can remove the pulldown, but it’s not that easy to do and I am not sure if you have the time or budget. It is easiest to remove pulldown before you begin editing. You can try compressor, but I am not sure how it’d do on cadence breaks, and if you have been editing 29.97, all of your graphics have rendered interlaced anyway, so it’s going to look weird.

    This time, don’t worry about it. Next time, you should start this process much earlier.

    Jeremy

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