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  • Walter Soyka

    April 5, 2013 at 8:08 pm

    [Chris Harlan] “I don’t know, man. I’m feeling feisty today. I think we’re going to have to fight. Tennis racquets at dawn? I’m tapping Lance as my second. Who you got?”

    I don’t know, mate — you did just call him grumpy. Are you sure Lance has your back?

    I know everybody posting here can take a little heat, but combative back-and-forth does nothing to encourage other readers to become posters themselves. This forum is just more fun when it’s civilized.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Chris Harlan

    April 5, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “Are you sure Lance has your back?”

    What? You think he might mess with the strings on my racquet? Delate my balls a bit? (That’s a set up if anyone want it.)

    [Walter Soyka] “I know everybody posting here can take a little heat, but combative back-and-forth does nothing to encourage other readers to become posters themselves. This forum is just more fun when it’s civilized.”

    Agreed. Then, we’ll have to duel it out over chess. You catching NAB this year?

  • Walter Soyka

    April 5, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    [Chris Harlan] “You catching NAB this year?”

    Sadly, no. I had been planning on going again, but I had to bail last-minute as I have some business keeping me in New York.

    I’m bummed about it — it’s been great meeting people in person whom I’ve only gotten to know online. Hopefully I’ll be back next year!

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Chris Harlan

    April 5, 2013 at 8:21 pm

    [Chris Harlan] ” Delate my balls a bit? (That’s a set up if anyone want it.)”

    Of course, that should read “deflate.”

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    April 5, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    [Steve Connor] “it appears there’s more excitement over here about the new Adobe features than there is on the PPro forum!”

    the thing I find a little fascinating is that the dude who published a comprehensive – really good – list of things that needed fixing in PPro 6, (I posted it here just before 7 got released) – he originally posted it to the adobe user forum – he noted on his own blog, where he published the list again, that he got some serious pushback from long term PPro users, who were beginning to get seriously irked at the focus on the migrating FCP horde that adobe was pivoting to address. Given that the scale of the changes were beginning to wreck their heads.

    It was an interesting wee thread – the guy who published the list was really civil and apologetic about stepping on toes, but there is a fact that PPro is, by virtue of numbers and expectation, being half co-opted by former FCP heads who really, really, really want it to land as a functioning step off from FCP7 – there are a ton of them.
    I could possibly be one? (to be read in the style of “I’m Ron Burgandy?”)

    At one point one of the long, long term PPro dudes on the adobe forum berated adobe for, among other things, removing the jog wheel controls from 5.5 (remember them? just below the viewer? they were god awful and took up acres of UI space)

    basically one of the senior adobe dudes came on and pretty much said he had come on board adobe (from FCP) at ver5 and said it was pretty much his mission to pull those controllers the minute he saw them. You could argue that, in a way, no more than apple, Adobe have been quite dispassionate about the habits and preferences of their long term editors – nothing as dramatic as a bananas magnetic timeline, but if I had been a long term PPro user pre 6 (and god love you if you were) then I might feel a tiny bit drowned out right now.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Steve Connor

    April 5, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    Removing those jog wheels made me take my first serious look at Premiere in a long time ( as well as getting rid of the horse)

    Steve Connor

    There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    April 5, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    Lets be fair- it’s come a country mile. that 7 update list goes on for quite a very long way.

    (The AE cinema 4D pipeline integration I found pretty much shocking as well. Given they also threw in a decently functioning Cinema 4D for kicks as well)

    I really wasn’t kidding below: I want to edit in 7. Exactly as soon as it comes out, that is my primary editor. That actually is the end of FCP for me.
    I was nearly fibbing up until now, but that release genuinely does do it for me personally.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Steve Connor

    April 5, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “(The AE cinema 4D pipeline integration I found pretty much shocking as well. Given they also threw in a decently functioning Cinema 4D for kicks as well) “

    That was an impressive move.

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “I really wasn’t kidding below: I want to edit in 7.”

    I think we got that

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “Exactly as soon as it comes out,”

    Which is the next BIG question!

    Steve Connor

    There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    April 5, 2013 at 9:32 pm

    I’m seriously down with this release – bar ranting on here, in terms of jobs, I’ve been sitting in my nappie with FCP7 pretty much the entire time to now.

    but I’m going with 7, and all the million little headaches that will arise – 7 is take FCP off the metaphorical dock time for me. I’m just kind of incredibly curious to get into it.

    (As an aside – Did you read the adobe dude about the project interplay? – its not multiple projects – but you can dive into other active users live projects, scrub their footage, basically pick things out at will for yourself? Their project contents even dynamically update in your media browser – the whole enchilada. no duplicate master clips either. In small interplay groups, going from edit guys to mograph guys and back – that’s rather a communications workflow biggie.
    I can flat out see a host of work cases for that kind of thing in the design editing hand off world.)

    They worked their asses off on 7, there’s just a million things done.

    I like 6, I’ve gotten to know 6 pretty well, but 7 just looks fundamentally right somehow to my head. I’d ditch FCP tomorrow if I had it. flat fact.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    April 5, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    It’s the month of may dude.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

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