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Comprehensive List of Premiere Pro’s new features.
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Not cool. Let’s discuss ideas, not people.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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[Lance Bachelder] “Why are you always a pretentious ass in every reply you write?
“Sigh. I like you Lance, but you can be one grumpy dude. Maybe chill, huh?
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[Steve Connor] “To be fair that doesn’t happen that much, it’s the biggest strength of the forum that we DO debate all NLE’s and I think it’s been an unexpected bonus of the launch fiasco that this forum has proved to be so useful.
“Well actually, I think pretty much every time there is a Premiere thread of more than three or four posts, someone manages to chime in with a loud, deeply-felt “What’s all this, then?!” That’s generally followed by a small posse of hearty X enthusiasts who get mildly belligerent and vaguely personal. Then, that is usually followed by yet another debate about forum name change, which gets either vetoed or ignored by Tim. Its fairly predictable.
Premiere seems to be the big trigger. No one goes OT bonkers over an Avid, Resolve or Lightworks thread. Nor do I recall it ever happening with the occasional Edius, Vegas, Smoke thread. There seems to be something about Premiere in particular that sends sparks to the territorial part of the brain.
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I love it guys – I’m the grump? Fair and balanced we are not…
Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
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Chris –
I wonder whether it has something to do with the perception, especially in the AVID and FCP camps, that Premiere Pro was a joke for so long (or was perceived as one, should I say), that people are still throwing stones at something they’ve never used, or used so far back, and were frustrated, that they never got over it. I remember when we got the first of our three Edit* systems, and the hardware package came with an early version of Premiere (I don’t even think it was Pro yet). We just tossed the box and software onto the shelf, and never even thought of installing it.
Premiere Pro has come a long way, and the next year or so may just be its’ time to shine. Add to that the fact of Adobe’s involvement and engagement of users and even potential users, and it’s easy to see why it could be a draw to the “disenfranchised” FCP users, and those who haven’t “got it” with FCPX yet, or have decided it doesn’t fit their workflow.
Joe Bourke
Owner/Creative Director
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[Lance Bachelder] ” love it guys – I’m the grump? Fair and balanced we are not…
“Well, yeah, man. You definitely get the grump hat. You’re the only person I’ve seen on his forum actually threaten to physically fight someone over postings. And you’ve done it several times. I know, because I was one of them. But, hey, I take it in the old school John Huston-y, Errol Flynn-ish, Bogarty way I think its meant. As I say, I like you. I have no doubt you would be terrific to work with or for. But, yeah–you do flash out a bit.
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Seriously, can we all drop the ad hominems altogether, go back to our corners, and forget this sub-thread ever happened?
This forum is interesting to me (even if the question of FCPX or not isn’t — use whatever works!) because of people’s different perspectives and experiences, and I’d consider it a loss for all of us if anyone didn’t post because someone else here made them feel unwelcome.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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Joe–I think its more of an appreciation of how far Premiere actually has come.
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[Walter Soyka] “Seriously, can we all drop the ad hominems altogether, go back to our corners, and forget this sub-thread ever happened?”
I don’t know, man. I’m feeling feisty today. I think we’re going to have to fight. Tennis racquets at dawn? I’m tapping Lance as my second. Who you got?
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On another note–you going to NAB?
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