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Cloud drawbacks as I see them.
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[Jon Hiseman] “I’m a subscriber to Adobe Cloud and loving it – BUT I’m faced with a dilemma. I’m always having to go back and open projects from several years before – I know thats been an issue for Walter.”
That’s not been an issue for us with Premiere Pro as we’re new to the app, I think we had a weird quirk at one point, but Adobe helped us out. I had a few issues with some REALLY old After Effects projects I was simply going to open for demonstration purposes.
FYI, from the show floor Day Two, seems to be a lot of love for the Cloud concept. Had a slew of folks visiting me in the Small Tree Booth chatting both shared storage and Premiere Pro. Most folks had the same experience as me. Trepidation at first, but fears allayed as systems were moved to the “cloud” concept of the apps. Both individuals and larger facilities.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author, Chef.
HD Post and Production
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MTWD Entertainment – Developing original content for all media.
“This American Land” – our new PBS Series.
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[walter biscardi] ” seems to be a lot of love for the Cloud
concept”W.C Fields – ” A sucker is born every minute”. 😀
Tom Daigon
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[Jon Hiseman] “I’m a subscriber to Adobe Cloud and loving it – BUT I’m faced with a dilemma. I’m always having to go back and open projects from several years before – I know thats been an issue for Walter. When Adobe has upgraded PPro and AE several times will they still open projects 5 years+ old? What do I do if they don’t. Do I have to enjoy 7 till it becomes 8 and then buy 7 for archive, enjoy 8 and then buy it as the news for 9 breaks? This is creative work we’re talking. How does Adobe see this problem?”
This concern came up very early in the process, and Adobe addressed it pretty quickly. You will still be able to use prior versions.
See the Creative Cloud FAQ [link] for a more detailed answer:
I am a Creative Cloud member using the CS6 applications included in my membership. Will I lose access to CS6 when the next full version of CS becomes available in Creative Cloud?
No, if you have downloaded and installed the CS6 versions of the applications, you will continue to have access to them without interruption as long as your membership remains active. When the next full version of CS becomes available, you will have up to a year to download and install them, and they will run on your computer along with CS6 versions.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[walter biscardi] “Most folks had the same experience as me. Trepidation at first, but fears allayed as systems were moved to the “cloud” concept of the apps. Both individuals and larger facilities.”
Makes sense.
I do understand the concerns that some people have about not “owning” the software that they depend upon — and I’ve also written about the maintenance licensing model which I generally prefer — but on the other hand, I don’t see software-as-a-service as the existential threat that some here do.
Speaking for myself, it’s simply not realistic for us to skip an upgrade. The new features are generally really useful, and we need to maintain compatibility with others, both in terms of project files and workflow. As an example, I couldn’t imagine using CS5 as my daily driver today.
Once you’re committed to maintaining all the upgrades anyway, I think the cloud option doesn’t look so bad. I’ve been using a Cloud license since last year, and the ability to easily bounce my license across multiple machines and platforms as I move about has been pretty nice.
I do still have a few perpetual licenses for Creative Suite. I’m waiting to see what my options are when Adobe announces availability and pricing, and I’ll decide what to do with them then.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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[Walter Soyka] “Once you’re committed to maintaining all the upgrades anyway, I think the cloud option doesn’t look so bad. I’ve been using a Cloud license since last year, and the ability to easily bounce my license across multiple machines and platforms as I move about has been pretty nice. “
The bouncing between systems is pretty sweet.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author, Chef.
HD Post and Production
Biscardi Creative MediaFoul Water Fiery Serpent, an original documentary featuring Sigourney Weaver. US & European distribution by American Public Television
MTWD Entertainment – Developing original content for all media.
“This American Land” – our new PBS Series.
“Science Nation” – Three years and counting of Science for the People. -
No, if you have downloaded and installed the CS6 versions of the applications, you will continue to have access to them without interruption as long as your membership remains active. When the next full version of CS becomes available, you will have up to a year to download and install them, and they will run on your computer along with CS6 versions.
That does sound OK, but what about past installers, if I have to reinstall all my apps (which historically I have always had to do at least every couple of years.) We will need the installers for years of legacy versions available as time passes.
I used to be Jon Hiseman but I’m feeling better now.
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[Jon Hiseman] “That does sound OK, but what about past installers, if I have to reinstall all my apps (which historically I have always had to do at least every couple of years.) We will need the installers for years of legacy versions available as time passes.”
My reading of the above is that legacy installers will be available for download for a year after the new versions are out. I’d suggest keeping your own backup copies of the installers thereafter.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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But that’s what I don’t understand.
Volume licenses have always been platform agnostic and each seat comes with the same 1 desktop/1 laptop ability. My seats, which cost the same (or less) than the single-seat non-business versions, are both Mac and PC capable – I can download the apps for either or; an HP workstation in the office a Mac laptop on the road. The limitation was non-existent for us. If we wanted to bounce around, the worst case was that a copy gets deactivated on one machine and activated or installed on another (really no different than the cloud.)
Again, I really have no horse in this race – but there’s a great marketing misrepresentation of how “difficult” perpetual licenses were. I’m open to new options, I’m even open to paying more if I see it add value for my business.
On the other hand, I’ve rarely taken a companies claims to be canon and in this case I continue to wonder why there’s so much defence of the cloud. It’s not a bad option if it remains an option.
Is the sky falling; absolutely not. It didn’t fall when FCP Legacy was dropped, in fact moving to CS5.5 and then to CS6 has been great. Customers are happier because we can respond so much more quickly to their demands and projects get moved through editorial so much more easily.
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Well? here paciently waiting.
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