Cloud drawbacks as I see them.

[Todd Kopriva]

> Well, imagine my surprise today, when I found out some Adobe personnel are not happy with us trying to find out where we stand with perpetual licenses.

Will you elaborate on what happened so that we can help to sort things out?

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[Tom Daigon]

Todd, as miffed as I may seem in this post, I still have the highest respect for Adobe and its personnel. I dont want to make things any worse then they are now. I just had an encounter here in Vegas where it was clear that folks were not happy with my attempts to find out about the existence of perpetual licenses for CS Next. And also didnt like that I started this thread.

Since discretion is the better part of valor, I will leave it at that. I dont want this to be anything more than a group of concerned customers wanting some information on the software they love using.

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[Todd Kopriva]

Understood. As far as you starting this thread: It’s good to ask the questions. Really.

Unfortunately, we (folks like me that build and test the software) don’t have all of the answers about hings like pricing and such. We’re waiting to learn some things, too.

When we do learn those things, we’ll share them. And if they’re not clear, we’ll clarify them.

Sorry that things seem to have gotten off the rails for you, whatever occurred.

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[Kevin Monahan]

Hi Tom,
On behalf of Adobe, I want to say sorry for not giving you and others in the community the information you desire regarding how future versions of our software will be priced. I can understand how vital that might be for your business. I also am sorry for the negative experience you had.

Unfortunately, those of us from Adobe working on the forums and in the social space do not have the final word on how future pricing might work. Until we ship the software, that information is not yet known, even by those of us that support users on the forums.

Again, apologies to you and the community. We will all know how things will work once we ship.

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan
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[Tom Daigon]

I really do appreciate you contacting me.

Me and the rest of the folks that are hopeful that perpetual licenses will be available in the future now realize that Adobe is not ready to share that info yet.We certainly do hope we have that option in the future.

And ending on a positive note. Adobes presence at NAB this year was nothing less than spectacular. I heard several LA editors decide to start learning PrP when they saw the CS Next version. And dont even get me started about the AE/C4D relationship. 😀

Tom Daigon
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[Tom Daigon]

Thanks Kevin. I look forward to getting that info when it becomes available.

Tom Daigon
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64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid

[Tom Daigon]

Adobe Cloud enthusiasts.Consider this.

Now- $29.95 monthly Introductory price
Soon- $59.95. Standard price
Future-$69.95? 89.95?

Once you buy in you have no choice but continue.If you stop your software is deactivated.

Tom Daigon
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64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid

[David Lawrence]

[Tom Daigon] “Once you buy in you have no choice but continue. If you stop your software is deactivated.”

Which means you will not be able to open your files. Thanks, but no thanks.

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[Jon Hiseman]

No, if you have downloaded and installed the CS6 versions of the applications, you will continue to have access to them without interruption as long as your membership remains active. When the next full version of CS becomes available, you will have up to a year to download and install them, and they will run on your computer along with CS6 versions.

OK – so I will upgrade to CS7 when it becomes available and want to download the CS6 installers to archive them for re-install at a later date or when I re-install everything on a new drive. Where are they on the Adobe site? The cloud does not put installers on my drives. I just get app folders. Am I doing something wrong? Can the trial installers be activated by the cloud? I get the impression that the Master suite trial installer does not include everything. Are the individual App folders, installed by the cloud, actually installers that will put all the bits where necessary if you copy them to another drive and boot the app? I for one would like some clear answers. Just had the director of a BBC documentary started in 2005 wanting access to the 3 different FCP edits. No problem – I have the install discs.

I used to be Jon Hiseman but I’m feeling better now.

[Tom Daigon]

Exactly Dave. That a problem I have with it as well.

Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPrG3WUyz8
(Best viewed at 1080P and full screen)
HP Z820 Dual 2687
64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid