Cloud drawbacks as I see them.

[Richard Cardonna]

yes but for 600.00 and tons of programs i dont use. vs 395 for fill permanent lic upgrade.

[Petros Kolyvas]

I’m with you… we have two seats of Production Premium because those users don’t need Indesign, Fireworks or Flash and I’d rather not have to start paying for software I don’t plan on using.

It’s kind of like Adobe is doing to users what cable companies are doing: you pay for all the channels when you only want a few because they come packaged together.

It has always been this way to some degree, individual components were always dramatically more expensive than their bundled counterparts but at some point, users just need a specific set of tools, not every tool ever made, no matter how tempting the offer seems.

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[Richard Cardonna]

just imagine you are on the 30th day of the grace period and your clients check is not in and you are working on an urgent project then suddenly a message pops up “your grace period hs expired please contact adobe cloud support concerning your membership”

[Walter Biscardi]

[Richard Cardonna] “Maybe if we could prepay for the year it might workout specially for those who upgrade everyear. This would mean no needfor internet connection ( at least once a year) And then maybe have a tear program for those that only need certain program.”

I believe you can pre-pay for the entire year and you get a discount. I think it still needs to check in to the internet, but I thought you could pre-pay a year.

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[Tom Daigon]

I am heading out to NAB shortlyand intended to hang out at the Adobe booth. I hope to find out If we still have the option to get perpetual licenses. I will let you folks know as soon as I do.Lets all cross our fingers 😀

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[Tom Daigon]

Well, imagine my surprise today, when I found out some Adobe personnel are not happy with us trying to find out where we stand with perpetual licenses.

The nerve of us as customers wanting to know if we had other choices then cloud rental.

And it seems that maybe the answer we were given yesterday might not be the correct one.

Its a shame that such innocent desire to know where we stand is met with such antipathy. Especially since I have been such a vocal enthusiast volunteering my time to help folks having trouble on the forums and beta testing the software.

I am shocked and disappointed that the need to know seems to present such a threat.

Ive stated my piece and will not pursue this anymore. I also will curtail volunteering to help folks in the Adobe forums for the time being.

I suggest if you have concerns, you express them. Remember, Adobe listens.

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[Ryan Holmes]

[Tom Daigon] “I also will curtail volunteering to help folks in the Adobe forums for the time being.”

I understand your frustration but don’t take your beef with Adobe (the company) out on the users of the software. You’re a valuable member to this area on the Cow and I think it’s a misstep to avoid the users of the software in hopes of making a point to the company producing the software.

Now if you stop using the software all together….well that’d be a different story… 🙂

Just my $.02

Ryan Holmes
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[Tom Daigon]

I WILL continue to help on the Cow Forums. I just will curtail that help on the Adobe Forums. At this point I think I am a persona non grata in that neck of the woods.

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[Petros Kolyvas]

Sad to hear that Tom, but I’m sure there are plenty of users who are still using their perpetual licenses (rarer as they may become) who could still benefit from your experience and skill.

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There is no intuitive interface, not even the nipple. It’s all learned. – Bruce Ediger

[Tom Daigon]

Like I said, Petros, I will continue to help folks here at the Cow Premiere and After Effects forums. Just not on the Adobe versions of those forums.

Tom Daigon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPrG3WUyz8
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64GB ram
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