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  • Canon 5d Mark III clips wont play in multiclip

    Posted by David Powell on December 15, 2013 at 10:51 pm

    Very strange. Although I’ve cut multicam projects with footage from this camera, it was always pretranscoded to Prores LT via Mpeg streamclip. I’m on 10.08 btw. I’ve tried two different events using the plural eyes workflow for two different shoots and both do the same thing. The image is just stuck on a freeze frame both in the angle editor and storyline with no display of the audio in the angle editor.

    The clips play fine in the PE multicam 2up and the finder and sync in the right places in FCPX. I transcoded one of the shoots to ProresLT and everything works fine, but this is a real wrench in my workflow as I like to work proxy and switch back to originals.

    Anyone ever seen this before? Btw, the clips play fine if I import them into an event by themselves.

    James Ewart replied 12 years, 5 months ago 6 Members · 31 Replies
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  • Bret Williams

    December 16, 2013 at 12:44 am

    Have you created proxies? Does it play back from those? What are your computer specs? H264 is a bigger demand on the system than ProResLT for sure.

  • David Powell

    December 16, 2013 at 12:57 am

    I got the biggest and baddest imac from late 2011 i7 3.4 with a t-bolt Raid. Its def not an h.264 issue. I transcoded to proxie and get the same results. Its not playing slow. Its literally frozen. Every clip. Won’t even play one at a time in the angle editor. Every other angle plays at speed with no hesitation. But if I import the same clip to the event, it works just fine. All the cameras in the other angles are h.264 but from 7d’s. Its just from this camera and only in a multi clip.

    First time I’ve had this issue, but its the first time I’ve done multicam with this specific camera without having first transcoded to prores outside (which I shouldn’t have to).

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 16, 2013 at 1:29 am

    This sounds like a frame rate issue to me.

    What frame rate is the footage?

  • Bret Williams

    December 16, 2013 at 2:27 am

    That iMac shouldn’t even flinch at the 5D footage. It’s essentially the same as the 7D. I did quite a lot of multicam 5D edits on that machine. Any chance it’s linked to a USB drive or something?

  • David Powell

    December 16, 2013 at 2:38 am

    23.98 Shouldn’t the prores not work as well if that were the issue? I transcode same rate.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 16, 2013 at 2:41 am

    Didn’t you say they were pre transcoded ProRes lt with streamclip?

    And that the proxies exhibited the same behavior?

  • David Powell

    December 16, 2013 at 2:59 am

    Well after the originals and proxies wouldn’t work in X, I transcoded the same clips in mpg streamclip and they play fine.

    And again original clips will play fine in X but not in the angle editor or in a multi clip. I Weiner if there is some kind of xml problem going on from PE.

  • Dave Jenkins

    December 16, 2013 at 5:11 am

    So are you using plural eyes instead of FCPX built in sync?

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 16, 2013 at 5:12 am

    Sorry, I misunderstood.

    If the clips play fine without the plural eyes XML, then, yes it may be something in the XML.

  • Bill Davis

    December 16, 2013 at 7:17 pm

    David,

    Try a super simplified test.

    Take the shortest original clip from the 5d you have.

    Import it into a new Event. Let X do the ProRes and Proxy transcodes internally.

    Drop it on a blank X Storyline.

    If it plays back fine, then the problem is something you’re doing with the transcoder settings prior to brining it into X.

    If it does NOT work, then the problem is at the camera settings level.

    Because thousands of us successfully edit 5d footage every minute all around the globe.

    You clearly have enough computer resources. My suspicion is that messing around with pre-transcoding or audio syncing outside X (neither necessary) something is getting screwed up.

    Good luck.

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