Can Sony Vegas 9 projects be opened in Vegas 12?

[Stephen Mann]

Yes, but not the other way around.
If there’s any chance you will want to open the project in Version 9 again, make a copy to work in Version 12 (I.E., copy ‘myproject.veg’ to ‘myproject12.veg’, and open the project12 file in Version 12.)

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com

[Mike Ryder]

(I can’t seem to edit my previous post, so I’ll have to write it in this one)

I went on the link you suggested, and looked at the page file thing, but there were to options, both blank originally (as it was set to the system to do it automatically).

One was “initial value”
and other “maximum value”

What should I enter for these?

Underneath that, there was the following (already there)
minimum allowed: 16 MB
recommended: 5181 MB
currently allocated: 3754 MB

[Stephen Mann]

So *you’re* the one person still running Vista?

Seriously, Windows 7 is far better than Vista for memory management. (Windows 8 sucks overall). And 4Gb of RAM is pretty small, so I am not surprised that you get out of memory errors. Most of the memory manufacturers web sites have a tool that you can click on to determine how much memory your PC can handle. Just Google PC Memory. (Personally I like Crucial memory).

Go ahead and bump the maximum pagefile to the recommended value.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com

[Mike Ryder]

Well if you’re offering to buy me a PC with windows 7 I’d happily accept that 🙂

Ok I’ll change the max pagefile to that, do you have any recommendations for the inital value? Should I set that to 0 or 1, or set it to 16 (which was underneath it as “minimum allowed”)

[Stephen Mann]

Just leave the minimum where it is. If you want a static pagefile, make the min and max the same value.

You don’t need a new PC to get Win7, you just buy the Win7 upgrade and install it.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com

[Mike Ryder]

Thanks for your advice, but I still can’t seem to get it to work.

I tried increasing the pagefile, and made them both (initial + max) at the recommended amount (5181MB I think), but still I get the same memory error message :(.

I’m not sure what the problem could be, since the recommended RAM for vegas 9 is 2GB, and I have 2x that, so in theory it should be fine.

I no expert at technical stuff, but I’m wondering if there’s any way to manually slow down the render, so it may be less intensive on RAM. Its just a theory, but does anyone know if this exists, and would it help?

[Stephen Mann]

since the recommended RAM for vegas 9 is 2GB

If you max your pagefile size and still get the low memory error, then you really don’t have enough RAM. The MINIMUM RAM for Vegas 9 is 2Gb. More is always better. A PC with 4Gb of RAM is already on the hairy edge of failure, especially if you haven’t removed all of the crapware that comes with your store-bought PC. (Google “DeCrapify.) You can’t force any program to use more or less RAM than it needs, but you can kill any unnecessary programs, especially your web browser, which consume a lot of PC resources (freeing the resources for other programs to use).

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com

[Mike Ryder]

I went onto the crucial memory website, and did the RAM scan. It said the max RAM would be 4GB, which I already have…

Are there any advantages to buying the same amount of RAM. Is it possible that old RAM could become “worn” in some way, so new RAM may help?

I also saw on the same website, something about “32 bit systems can only optimise 3.5GB of RAM”, and my system is 32-bit, so does that mean only 3.5GB of the RAM can be used?

Just in case its of any use, my computer is Advent PQD5002, it has 2 memory slots (both are currently used up, as I think its 2GBx2 RAM sticks), and DDR2 RAM.

[Stephen Mann]

New RAM wouldn’t help. The Crucial software is pretty good about determining what motherboard your PC has, so if it says you can only have 4Gb, then believe it. RAM doesn’t get worn out, but programmers tend to write for the most recent hardware. Yours is what? Ten years old? I think you have reached the limits of what your ancient PC can do.

No 32-bit OS can access over 4 gigs of total memory (including video RAM, caches, addresses reserved by devices, and last but not least system RAM). Usually it leaves about 3-3.5GB for the programs.

This is due to address space. A 32-bit OS uses 32-bit integers for memory addresses and hence is only limited to 4,294,967,296 bytes of memory. A 64-bit OS uses 64-bit integers and hence is limited to about 6.8 million terabytes.

I’ve never used PAE (Physical Address Extension) because I upgraded to a 64-bit system as soon as I could. PAE is a workaround for the 32-bit memory limitation. It extends the addresses to 36-bit providing a limit of 64GB. It can’t make a single application able to use more than 3GB of RAM (unless the app supports PAE which is very very unlikely), but when you run many apps at the same time, they can use max 4GB each. Read more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension

It’s time for a new PC.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com

[Mike Ryder]

Just to update where I’m at, left with very few options I decided to download the trial of Vegas 10, rendered my project in that, and to my surprise it worked! Not a single error message, and I was able to render it twice (1st time 720p, second 1080p).

That’s good and bad news. Its good since I still can render, and I know my memory shouldn’t be a problem, but bad since I think the trial only lasts 30 days I think.

I guess its probably an error with Vegas 9, rather than an issue with my specs. Are things like this a common issue?