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Bob Zelin is right…..The End Is Near!
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The hardest part of basic production is the audio. Many young film makers will choose projects that do not require live audio recording. An action sequence with the easy ability to use speed control in a NLE and a music score is really not that hard. I’ve seen a zillion skate boarding movies as good as this one. I’m not saying that some kids don’t have more visual talent than others. But most professional gigs and films have dialog. And yes a script and plot. This ups the price point, the skill, and the number of crew members that know what they are doing. Another major factor with “no budget” films is getting all these people to SHOW UP and take direction. A lot easier with money on the table.
Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Canon 5D Mark III/70D, Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV40, Sony Z7U/VX2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; FCP X write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.
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[John Rofrano] ” I didn’t have the heart to tell him that I have an original Merlin Steadicam in the basement that he could have borrowed. (…well, he never asked) :-D”
hahaha great story John : )
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What I wanna know is…
is the Garage Kid hiring?
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[Mark Suszko] “is the Garage Kid hiring?”
…and does he give benefits? lol 😀
~jr
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I am not so sure about all this. Of course there are more people getting into editing, production, etc. At the same time the demand for (good) content has grown significantly as well. Perhaps not all in the same fields but you can’t deny that the amount of content via video has grown significantly.
I think there will still be a demand for professionals and maybe even more demand than ever before.
In my business I was forced to do stuff myself because I didn’t have the money to pay for a high-end editor, website designer etc. But as the business is picking up I have hired a webdesigner to build my website (and it was not cheap). As soon as I earn enough I will outsource editing / video production as well as it is not my core business. I enjoy it, but I’d rather do other things in that time.
Many people start things up doing it themselves or hire an amateur but that doesn’t mean it will stay like that. Some people hire a kid to take photo’s at their wedding, I wonder how many recommendations the kid will get from that afterwards.
Online content is getting better and better and to stand out you need to deliver more and more professional type content. I am positive that an editor with a keen mind can find emerging markets in an era where video is dominating the web. It’s about the value you bring to the client.
But then again, I am not a professional [edit: not a professional editor], just an entrepreneur watching from the sideline 🙂
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As I said above, it’s all about talent. Anyone can buy the tools of the trade, and now more cheaply than ever before, but the years of experience it takes to know which tool is right for the job, takes…well…years.
Here’s an example from the music side of what I do. Quite a few years ago, I was showing some colleagues of mine the setup I was using to create MIDI tracks for the various video projects I was working on. The first thing out of the mouth of one of them was, “We can buy one of the keyboards and do it ourselves!”. No thought whatsoever to the years it takes to get good at that craft – I started taking lessons when I was six years old, practiced daily, went to a highly respected music school to study arranging and composition…yada…yada…
But the first response was to think that all they had to do was buy the technology, and the chops would come with it. I’m not throwing stones at the young up and comers…they (at least those with talent and perseverence) will be the next vanguard in the world of media production. But many of those who just see what’s cool about it, and how easy you can buy in to the tools, will fall by the wayside.
Joe Bourke
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That is exactly why I think there is a place for pro’s. Many kids want to make a living playing “in a band” until they start to live the life. Quickly it is not that nice anymore. They find out how much work it is making a living on music.
I like playing and concerts but I don’t like touring all that much. Some think you get to see cool places. Well, yeah, the hotel rooms in those places. And they all look the same.
With regards to editing, I think many will try to do it but at some point will start hiring quality people to get the job done. (with probably a new found respect for any craft involved) At the same time future pro’s can get a head start learning the trade on an early age. In that sense, they will be ahead of the game as they’ll have a lot more experience when they go to University to study as opposed to kids many years ago.
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Absolutely right, Andre. I was on the road with a band for five years. In just about every place we played, people would come up to us…doctors, lawyers, other professionals, and say that they’d give an arm and a leg to do what we were doing. They didn’t realize that we’d spent years learning our craft, had to drive from gig to gig, setup equipment, rehearse, and manage the business side of things.
All the audience sees is that you’re “playing”, and they imagine how much fun that is. It is, but it takes a huge amount of work to make it look easy. It’s the same with media production. The first question out of many of the new posters on these forums is whether there’s a plugin to do that effect. It’s always the simple approach that many look for. And it’s obvious from many of the questions that they’ve never spent any time with the manuals or the wealth of tutorials out there. If you’re going to be good at any craft, dedicate yourself to it…
Joe Bourke
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[Andrew Kimery] “Conversely, a Cowboy Preacher might be be just fine with the results an iPhone can give.”
Or even a company like Bentley? Even after it was shot on an iPhone and even assembled on an iPad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyYhM0XIIwU
Clearly little shame in that.
– RK
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[Robin S. Kurz] “Or even a company like Bentley? Even after it was shot on an iPhone and even assembled on an iPad.”
Previously discussed here:
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/69100#69100
and here:
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/80950#80950
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