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Blue Ray Authoring & New Mac Pro System
Luke Aguirre replied 17 years, 2 months ago 15 Members · 55 Replies
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Chris Babbitt
February 25, 2009 at 10:09 pmMost of us only need to make one-offs for our clients-no $5000 license required. Microsoft offers this, and it certainly doesn’t add $5000 to a copy of Vista. Come-on, how long has it been since we’ve seen an upgrade to DVDSP, or even iDVD, for that matter. Like I said before, I believe Apple has lost interest in their Pro-Apps. The i-Phone is where they’ve put their resources for now.
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Walter Biscardi
February 25, 2009 at 10:21 pm[Don Greening] “Thanks for the link, Walter. “
My pleasure. I’ve had to do a lot of research in a short amount of time about BluRay and BluRay authoring.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
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Michael Allen
February 25, 2009 at 10:22 pmIs this true, I think the MacPro comes with 2gig of ram. I told the rep that I wanted 8gig of ram. So, I guess that he added 2 then 4 to get a total of eight. Is this a problem?
Mike
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David Jahns
February 25, 2009 at 11:48 pmI don’t buy the licensing argument at all. Come on, ROXIO can afford blu-Ray technology for Toast 9 , but Apple can’t?
This has more to do with Apple TV competing with Blu-Ray for the home movie HD experience. Jobs & Co bet the farm (or least one cow) on digital delivery, and that all physical media is passe at this point. Jobs hopes Apple TV will transform an industry like the iPod did. Offering a Blu-Ray disc solution will only help the physical media movement stay afloat. Anyone else notice that iDVD doesn’t even make the cover of the iLife 09 box, or the iLife homepage? It’s still part of the suite, but it’s not even touted as a feature anymore.
So, will all content be streaming/download? 10 years from now, probably, but in the meantime it’s ProApps users who are caught in the middle.
I applaud Walter and the others that have forged ahead and found their own solutions, but I’m personally not interested in authoring on a commercial level, we just give our clients DVDs of rough cuts and videos, and it would be nice to upgrade to blu-ray disc without having to invest and learn a whole new system. Toast 9 does the trick for simply putting HD content on a disc, but the authoring is quite limited – menus are only so customizable, etc…
Funny how Pixar is still releasing physical discs, though, isn’t it?
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Chris Borjis
February 26, 2009 at 1:06 am[David Jahns] “I don’t buy the licensing argument at all. Come on, ROXIO can afford blu-Ray technology for Toast 9 , but Apple can’t?”
thats a good point….but Roxio is owned by Sonic Solutions…..creator of Scenarist
the gold standard in DVD authoring and one of the R&D houses for HD-DVD & BD authoring from
the get go.they have plenty of $$$ and influence.
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Mark Suszko
February 26, 2009 at 1:11 amWalter makes a very powerful business case for his investment. My final point (or counter-point) is: look at how much that cost you to get, Walter, the gear and the software, and that’s what Apple is leaving on the table from every FCP Studio owner that wants his software to stay competitive with Adobe and Sony. How is that good business from Apple’s standpoint?
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Walter Biscardi
February 26, 2009 at 1:22 am[David Jahns] “I don’t buy the licensing argument at all. Come on, ROXIO can afford blu-Ray technology for Toast 9 , but Apple can’t? “
In an EXTREMELY limited capable software. Adobe Encore is much more featured than Toast. But neither Toast nor Encore conform to commercial BluRay specs. That is, you cannot send out a BluRay disc created from either of those software programs to a commercial replication house. The discs will be rejected.
Now with DVDSP you can send out a DLT or DVD Master for commercial replication. One would assume that if Apple is going to enable BluRay disc, they would offer the same for BluRay. I have no idea how the whole licensing thing works for software, but I would assume there are varying levels of licensing for non-commercial and commercial spec.
Through conversations with the commercial replication houses, their fees are in the 6 figures and something like a $1 million investment to set up for the replication process. Doesn’t sound the licensing fees are cheap.
Now if you’re just wanting to do one-offs for your clients, then pick up Encore. It’s fully capable of creating one button discs that work just fine. All you have to do is purchase Premiere and you’re set to go, though I would recommend picking up the CS4 Production Premium package since it includes so much software. Encore also does NOT re-encode the MPEG-2’s from Compressor, it leaves them alone.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!
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David Roth weiss
February 26, 2009 at 1:25 am[Mark Suszko] “How is that good business from Apple’s standpoint?”
It doesn’t seem to be hurting Apple one bit. BluRay deployment is still miniscule and, just like the early (and expensive) days of SD DVD, available to those who really think they need it.
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Walter Biscardi
February 26, 2009 at 1:30 am[Mark Suszko] “How is that good business from Apple’s standpoint?”
Honestly I’m done with this discussion. You all have a great evening. Maybe Apple will have Christmas in April and roll out BluRay in April.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!
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