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  • Blue-only color bars?

    Posted by Chris Poisson on May 26, 2007 at 1:07 pm

    Is there an NTSC blue-only tiff file or something that could help calibrate monitors and TVs that don’t have a blue-only switch?

    Just a wild-ass idea I had this morning, I’m using a Sony multi-format TV for HD for clients, and I have it pretty well dialed in, just would like blue-only to get it closer. Any idea how to make one in Photoshop? Or, would it work?

    Rafael Amador replied 18 years, 11 months ago 7 Members · 17 Replies
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    May 26, 2007 at 1:38 pm

    Seems to me that you could create this in FCP. Just add a RGB balance filter to a clip of color bars, then kill r and g…? The bars would come out with the blue only output that way… dunno if you could actually setup a monitor with this output, but I’m not sure why not either… interesting idea! give it a try and report back!

    Jerry

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  • Tom Brooks

    May 26, 2007 at 1:44 pm

    That wouldn’t work because you need to have all the colors coming to the monitor. You could easily get a blue filter. The article below says a Wratten 47B is the one you want.
    https://www.synthetic-ap.com/tips/calibrate.pdf

  • Chris Poisson

    May 26, 2007 at 2:12 pm

    Tom,

    That does not make sense to me. Of course all the colors would still be there, how would you get a TV to not do that? The blue filter idea is something I’ve always done, but I think it’s a crappy alternative to a blue only switch.

    I’m gonna try Jerry’s suggeation and see what happens.

  • Rafael Amador

    May 26, 2007 at 2:44 pm

    As long as we are using that “just blue” bars to calibrate only the Chroma, I think the way that Jerry points works. is the same that you get rid of the G an R in your computer or in the monitor. We can not usethat bars to calibrate the bright or the contrast, but the chroma, I tink, yes.
    Cheers,
    rafael

  • George Strother

    May 26, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    Chroma gain, maybe. Phase, not a chance.

    George
    Light Images

  • Chris Poisson

    May 26, 2007 at 3:53 pm

    Hey George,

    Yeah, chroma yes, but you are right. Back to the ole’ blue gel I guess, but then, phase isn’t much of an option there either, depending on the controls in the monitor, no?

  • Tom Brooks

    May 26, 2007 at 3:57 pm

    Adjusting hue is a process of comparing the various colors to each other so that they are in the correct balance, right? So, if your source image only has one color, how can you compare anything?

    When you use the blue-only switch you are seeing all the colors of the source through only the blue gun. You are seeing yellow, cyan, green, magenta, red, and blue through the blue gun only. When you adjust the hue and chroma controls, you change the balance of those colors and you’ll see the intensity of the individual areas change with respect to each other–again, all through the blue gun only.

    With a blue-only source, you’ll get no comparison and thus no change in intesity between, say, the yellow and cyan bars. They’ll all change in usison and thus defeat the comparison you’re trying to make.

  • Tom Brooks

    May 26, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    Chroma won’t work with this method either. You’ve subtracted the other colors out of the white, so you get no comparison of blue and white bars.

  • Jerry Hofmann

    May 26, 2007 at 10:59 pm

    It’s probably better to buy a monitor with the ol’ blue only button on it…

    Jerry

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  • Michael Gissing

    May 26, 2007 at 11:12 pm

    Posts like this one make me glad I am in PAL land.

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