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  • Audio out thru KONA is insanely loud! System sound setting don’t work.

    Posted by Mike Johnson on September 19, 2006 at 5:04 pm

    I connected two studio ref monitors thru XLR cable to the XLR outputs on my KONA breakoutbox.
    The ref monitors are at gain level 1 out of 10.

    But the sound out is super loud, and the sound control setting in OSX doesn’t work. (the one in menu bar next to date/time in top right corner) It don’t affect the sound. Like the setting been by-passed.

    I have set all sound settings to use KONA LHe as in and out audio.

    If I play music in itunes I can control the level of the sound, if I set to to mute no sound comes out. The itunes volume control has about 20 steps.
    Step 0 is silent/mute, step 1 is really loud, the difference frpm 0 to 1 is huge! Maxing the setting would probably break the speakers.

    My system is a 2.66 Mac Pro, v.3 of KONA soft, 10.4.7 with all the latest updates.

    Any suggestions?

    Jnorman16 replied 19 years, 9 months ago 9 Members · 21 Replies
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  • Aaron Neitz

    September 19, 2006 at 6:23 pm

    This seems to be happening a lot lately to people….

    The ouput on the Kona, or any other digital video board for that matter, is inteded to feed into a mixer, deck, or audio workstation *NEVER* directly into your speakers (you risk overloading the amp and ruining the speakers) It’s a strong signal that’s output to overcome transmission and noise floor problems in a professional audio setup. A mixer let’s you split that signal specifically to your speakers so that 1) it’s at a comforatable listeneing level and 2) you have a convienant volume control right at your fingertips.

  • Mike Johnson

    September 19, 2006 at 7:06 pm

    So I take that there is no way to control it before output?

    That sort of sucks, I have some mixers, but I don’t want any for this set up.

  • Aaron Neitz

    September 19, 2006 at 7:14 pm

    well, you could go into Final Cut and use the mixer tool… use the master mix to control it…

  • Mike Johnson

    September 19, 2006 at 8:22 pm

    well that doesn’t help much, final cut is not the only app that makes noise.

  • Aaron Neitz

    September 19, 2006 at 9:33 pm

    well i think you’re looking for a solution that does exist.

  • Aaron Neitz

    September 19, 2006 at 9:33 pm

    er, doesn’t exist

  • Mike Johnson

    September 19, 2006 at 10:26 pm

    Looks like it, but in all fairness, why shouldn’t you be able to control the level of outgoing audio from your system?!?
    That’s can’t be tricky at all to fix.

    Guess I have to add a mixer for now.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    September 19, 2006 at 10:57 pm

    This setup is not really recommended because if you change the audio levels in your mac, it’ll change the output levels in FCP, among other reasons. everyone that does this has problems, you can search the forum to see. Get yourself a mixer to use as a volume control/audio router, I have one and I route all my stuff through it. Couldn’t really do it without. You can then take the output of your mac (headphone out) and put that into your mixer to monitor system sounds. If this is some sort of ‘b’ system, even a cheap Yamaha $99 dollar mixer will do. If you are going to be outputting I’d recommend something with a little bit more quality such as the Mackie 1402 or higher. Once the mixer is in and setup., it will stop all of your headaches.

    Jeremy

  • Bob Zelin

    September 19, 2006 at 11:39 pm

    Mr. Johnson,
    Every edit system in the world, from back in the old linear days, thru AVID, and now into FCP and Premier, has an audio mixer on it. This is the way it is done, and this is the way that you will do it. You own a mixer, you will use it. If you dont’ want to use a mixer, get an audio attenuator, like the Mackie BIG KNOB, which can act like a little volume control for you, and no mixer. And if you want to spend no money, you can look for the ROLLS audio attenuator, which has two little knobs on it, and will kind of work – I believe it’s about 40 bucks, but you can get a small Behringer mixer for a few bucks more than this.

    However, if you insist on being a baby, and just want what you want (even though you own a mixer), and just can’t understand why it takes EQUIPMENT to make a living in the editing business, please post your address, and I will be happy to fly to your location and strangle you.

    Bob Zelin

  • Dan Brockett

    September 20, 2006 at 12:44 am

    Bob:

    You crack me up!

    Keep up the entertainment.

    Dan

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