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Charlie Austin
June 3, 2014 at 6:43 pm[Steve Connor] “Yes, I certainly am, because I love Apple soooooo much, I’m happy to make my editing much more difficult every day, that’s what us FCP X users do.”
Me too! I have 5 NLE’s available on my system, and I love working in X because it makes everything I do such a chore! It’s terrible, so I use it as much as I can! Because I love Apple!!!!
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Herb Sevush
June 3, 2014 at 6:53 pm[Atilio Menéndez] “Of course the whole elegance breaks down as soon as you add some music and sounds and the audio clips end up getting thrown randomly all over the place in a sea of green, but, well, that’s another story.”
No, that is the story, unless you don’t use music or sound EFX.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Steve Connor
June 3, 2014 at 7:05 pm[Herb Sevush] “No, that is the story, unless you don’t use music or sound EFX.”
That’s how I’ve made my audio editing in FCP X much easier, I’ve stopped using music and EFX
Steve Connor
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Steve Connor
June 3, 2014 at 7:08 pm[TImothy Auld] “I am seriously worried about the mental and physical health of some regular posters here.
“You needn’t have worried
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Aindreas Gallagher
June 3, 2014 at 7:13 pmfor sure – there are millions of brilliant things – and I don’t use it enough to talk as the world and its cat knows – but for all the brilliant things, there are some bananas things – like not being able to do an audio only overwrite – that just actually is bananas.
and the reason you can’t do it is because of the restrictive decisions apple took in the design of the timeline. They decided it was A-OK to have an outcome where the editor couldn’t do an audio only overwrite – that feels like a crazy decision – I’d argue if there was an editor within a half mile of them when they were working that out he would have been all ‘excuse me what now? we really like to do that you know.”
so now you’re left muting bits of clip audio and connecting the replacement room tone below – and, you know, that just sounds outright bonkers?
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Joshua Pearson
June 3, 2014 at 7:14 pmYes i do not like the chaotic placement of clips in the timeline “space”… my timelines get very complex and i do like a visual sense of order when zoomed out to look at the whole shebang.
But i am not here to dump on X… i am simply trying to figure out how to do certain things more easily, mixed with some mild complaining. Like I said there are things about it like a lot.
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Craig Seeman
June 3, 2014 at 7:19 pmI think one of the logistical challenges in FCPX is that Audio as a Component vs Connected Clip vs Secondary Storyline, each involve different techniques to achieve a specific function, in this case inserting room time.
The problem is, if you could “overwrite” to an Audio Component, that might be creating another level of complexity as it’s not longer the audio as recorded as a component of the source file.
In some sense this makes Audio in FCPX very much “modal.” I think the quandary comes in, for the editor, is that changing a component to another “mode” (connected clip or secondary story line) each comes with the loss of some of the advantages of being an Audio Component. One example would be components can’t lose sync whereas detached clips can.
If you’re looking at why one has a reluctance to change the “mode” of the component then that could be the kernel of a feature request.
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Andy Field
June 3, 2014 at 7:24 pmTony – i was referring to earlier comment that it takes 90 to 120 days to get used to something new…..I don’t know, if its designed well it shouldn’t take any time at all. Imagine if it took 90 to 120 days to get used to the new Iphone……pretty sure it wouldn’t be a multi-billion dollar business.
the “give me FCP X or hit the road” crowd is so invested in other’s validating their choice they seem to need to make everyone else either wrong or luddites for not agreeing with them.
Me – whatever works for you…great….go for it.
Andy Field
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Charlie Austin
June 3, 2014 at 7:32 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] ” there are some bananas things – like not being able to do an audio only overwrite – that just actually is bananas.”
Except that you can do an audio only overwrite, just like any other NLE. Ya know, with detached audio. Now, unlike any other NLE the sync audio rides with the pix, so if you need to write audio over the sync audio for doe reason, then you detach it with a keystroke so you can work just like you’re used to working. And then, if you want it to go back to being self contained, press a key to comp it. Real complicated.
Oh no wait, I forgot… it’s really difficult and i’m drinking koolaid.
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Herb Sevush
June 3, 2014 at 7:40 pm[Steve Connor] “That’s how I’ve made my audio editing in FCP X much easier, I’ve stopped using music and EFX”
ahh, so that’s your secret. brilliant! and the way you make video editing easier is by not using any video. awesome! now i’m finally “getting” fcpx. I’m sure Bill will be very proud.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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