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Audio editing in FCPX
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I agree with you Andreas… i was trying to say i want to simply “cut a piece of room tone directly into the audio of an interview clip, thereby in effect “embedding it”, directly in my main timeline, without clicking into another timeline, or opening as timeline, or making a compound clip, or “detaching’ the audio. A more complicated way of saying, i want to alter the audio “track” as if it lived in a “track”, which in the main storyline it doesn’t, unless you of course “detach” it… My way of saying, the functionality of the main storyline is strange and requires odd workarounds compared to treating all “tracks” or “layers” or “lanes” as equals. Thats what i want! Equality for all clips!… X unfortunately forces a hierarchy. And to make it slightly more annoying, secondary story lines do not behave like the main story lines, which i wish they would. Thats all.
Otherwise I do really enjoy keywording and much of the organizational side of X. And straight cutting into the main storyline is great… its just the fiddling that gets slightly weird.
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[Joshua Pearson] “Otherwise I do really enjoy keywording and much of the organizational side of X. “
it’s the best bit – it makes everything else look stone age. I feel cooler just using it.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Thinking like “tracks” isn’t going to move Apple towards a solution.
A feature request allowing “overwrite” in both audio components and connected clips might make more sense.
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yes that’s what i’m talking about… overwrite edit into just the audio or just the video portion of clips in the main storyline. And please let me paste insert and paste overwrite a clip in a secondary storyline.
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[Joshua Pearson] ” i was trying to say i want to simply “cut a piece of room tone directly into the audio of an interview clip”
And you don’t want to just select “break apart clip items” and do it that way?
I don’t know, it seems like what you are trying to do wouldn’t take me all that long to do. I must be missing it.
I will leave you to it.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “It’s a seriously rich blend of kool aid and stockhom syndrome, all polished off with that one dude going: – mmmm – “I find audio editing more elegant in x” “
It is. Runs circles around other NLE’s.
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Yes, I second the feature request allowing overwrite in both audio components and connected clips and also paste overwriting in a secondary storyline. But, really, was audio editing better in Legacy?
Personally, I just select all clips and EXPAND AUDIO COMPONENTS (I do not expand audio/video, or detach audio, or use compound clips, secondary storylines, open clips in the timeline, etc). On the expanded audio tracks the cursor automatically turns into the range tool, so with one single drag I can select any piece of audio, then mute it or adjust its volume, copy and paste it elsewhere, etc. All very efficient, IMHO.
Aindreas, I mentioned “opening in timeline” just because Joshua wanted “the little tiny clip to be safely embedded into the main audio clip”. It can very quickly be done, although I wouldn’t quite want to work that way either. I have no problem with those balls, eh, clips hanging there.
One thing I find more elegant in X is the way in which audio is connected to the video. In legacy the video and its audio often end up being vertically quite far apart, sometimes with stuff in between so it’s not obvious what belongs to what. In X you can also collapse audio components after editing audio, which greatly cleans things up visually on the timeline. Also the way one can reshuffle clips with J/L-cuts without these causing conflicts or the cuts being affected I would call more elegant. And proper subframe editing and the little handles to fade clips in/out are clear timesavers.
Of course the whole elegance breaks down as soon as you add some music and sounds and the audio clips end up getting thrown randomly all over the place in a sea of green, but, well, that’s another story…
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huh, see, i learned something new!… never tried the “expand audio components”… i see how i can mute things but i just tried to copy and paste a small range of room tone, and, even though i select a range of audio only, when i copy and try to paste that audio, it doesn’t overwrite only, it cuts audio AND video into the timeline… still in “expanded” view… so i can’t use it for my previously stated simple room-tone cut.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “sometimes – just sometimes – the exchanges between x proponents on here do actually boggle the mind.
It’s just the way they’re all happily doing these completely insane things, and thinking its all breezy.
“Yes, I certainly am, because I love Apple soooooo much, I’m happy to make my editing much more difficult every day, that’s what us FCP X users do.
The Kool-aid makes it all worth it
Steve Connor
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cool. you have to paste as connected clip, then it pastes audio only. figure out! think different i guess. still no overwrite though, so you have to mute the portion over it, which is a needless step i hope apple will get rid of.
the way you can select a range and use keystrokes to increase or decrease the volume or mute the range is quite efficient though.
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