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Apple Posts New Videos Comparing FCPX to Adobe & Avid
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“The videos are full of lies.
No other software has “Match Color”?.
Please…
Media Composer has that almost since day one.”
You are wrong. Match Color from FCPX analyzes whole clips and then match color based on the clip data, not the frame data. That makes a huge difference. (By the way, MC doesn’t have march color almost from since one).
“Too complicated to keep things in synch in Media Composer, when trimming?.
Just use “Synch Locks”.”Synchs Looks is not the same. If you sync lock tracks and then you do a ripple edit you are “auto adding edit” splitting clips. Working in TV spots I’ve had to handle dialogue tracks with tons of sound design clips, plus ambient sound and music. Since TV spots’s shots don’t usually have a duration of more than a couple of seconds, you usually work with complicated timelines. Synch Look is not a solution when you are constantly trimming or changing the order of shots with eight audio tracks which overlap with surrounding shots. That’s even worst when you need to work with alternative shots (with audio) in the same timeline.
“No stabilization inside the application?.
Again… Please…
Media Composer has the Stabilize effect, wich works great.
But you have to analyze in foreground the clip, and what happens if you later trim it?If you compare those things in a specs table they may seem the same, but is not.
Leo Hans
Editor AVID – Final Cut Pro
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Leo:
I´m not saying the features works the same way.
I´m saying those features already exists in Media Composer.
I´m not comparing how the features work.
What I´m saying is Apple lies when they say FCP X is the only application able to do Match Color or Stabilization inside the software.
Call it marketing. I call it a lie.
Anyway, if you compare Stabilization:
MC gives you more options. You can lock movement, or stabilize movement using Steady Glide. You have 3 option for trackers (Fluid trackers, etc.). You can stabilize an object inside the frame. And yres, if you trim a shot, you need to track it again. But in general, all effects involving trackers are far superior, like drawing a mask with Animatte, and tracking it to follow a character movement.
Peace!
Flavio G. Garc
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Flavio,
If you need to re track a shot every time you make an edit it’s not the way to go. You are wasting time. It’s ok that for a Flame, After effects, Smoke. The main reason we use a NLE is to edit, so if you loose what you already has done every time you edit, something is wrong.Of course Apple is doing marketing, but not only marketing, the had done a very powerful software too.
Adobe and Avid does the same with the “one time offer” because they are going to charge you a lot with every upgrade later.
I think the intention of the videos is to show things to people are saying FCPX is not good without ever trying it (since it’s a new way of thinking, you have to learn it. It’s not enough to launch the software and doing some clicks with the mouse to decide).
Leo Hans
Editor AVID – Final Cut Pro
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Not at all.
Apple already successfully used keywords in Aperture and Adobe with Lightroom. It’s just new for NLE, give it a try.Leo Hans
Editor AVID – Final Cut Pro
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I know – I use Lightroom and the keywords only a little…
No, my comment was more about: I use “keywords”, like the comment tab, scene/take tabs we find in MC or FCP. I don´t say that is bad at all but my impression is you NEED to or you´re lost – and you need to spend very much time thinking about keywords etc. So it surely works for some people that have that inner feeling to structure everything, have a nice clean living room, etc. Which is not bad at all, but there are more types of human beings. 🙂
I have my own structure concepts and depending on projects they need to be so or so or different. I don´t blame that keyword thing at all, only my impression is that they focus on it too much and leaving out different approaches. -
Just assign keywords with the name of your former bins.
Or do it backwards: Create keyword collections and drop clips there, like with the clips/bins in FPC7Leo Hans
Editor AVID – Final Cut Pro
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Again, Leo:
If you need to re track a shot every time you make an edit it’s not the way to go. You are wasting time. It’s ok that for a Flame, After effects, Smoke. The main reason we use a NLE is to edit, so if you loose what you already has done every time you edit, something is wrong.
I´m not comparing how Stabilize works. I´m saying what Apple says is just a lie.
If you like FCP X, use it. I use it too. But Apple lies.
I´m really tired about those comments like “It´s not the way to go”.
For whom?, for you?. Fine!. But, please, stop the bold statements.
I think the intention of the videos is to show things to people are saying FCPX is not good without ever trying it (since it’s a new way of thinking, you have to learn it. It’s not enough to launch the software and doing some clicks with the mouse to decide).
Now, that´s the other argument being said. I guess you don´t say that because of me.
As I matter of fact, not only I edit with all mayor NLE´s, including FCP X and 7, Avid and Premiere, I´m actually a teacher of all those applications, of course including X. I actually consider myself a very good teacher, one the reasons being I´m “software agnostic” and never justify any company.
You´re “way to go” is not necesarily everyone´s way to go. Same with “Apple´s way to go”.
Anyway, what I would consider important is the results, not how easy is to do something.
In the case of Stabilize, I can say FCP X´s is seriously inferior to Warp Stabilize, wich is in AE 5.5, and is probably now the best stabilization in desktop software.
By the way, and take this a joke:
No Precision Editor in a Secondary Storyline?. Why?. Why is the logic in that?.
Don´t worry, someone will chime in to say not having Precision Editor in a Secondary Storyline is the most logical thing, because you don´t need precision in something less important than the Primary Storyline. Or something like that…
Flavio G. Garc
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Flavio,
English is not my mother language, so excuse me if something sounds not so friendly.I think that tools should make things simpler. AE may be the best stabilization (maybe excluding smoke, flame and other high cost alternatives), but AE is not a NLE.
About learning FCPX first, I was not talking about you. If you look at most forums (here, fcp.co, etc) most of the people complaining about FCPX didn’t ever launched the App (in their own words).
I love some FPC7 features. I love some Avid MC features, and some Premiere features too.
I agree with the second story line lacking precision editor, but I have to admit I not using too much the precision editor because i find the inline trimming really good. And I have my own complaints about FCPX, but I love the core idea of it.
Leo Hans
Editor AVID – Final Cut Pro
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Leo, no need to apologize.
English is not my mother language either. So we´re fine… 🙂
I hope I didn´t get too defensive. Sorry If i did.
Happy Saturday.
Flavio.
Flavio G. Garc
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This whole “I don’t need anything FCPX is offering and it’s not for PROs” story on every forum on the internet is really funny. I can relate it to a bunch of other stuff happening on this planet. For the example, do anyone remember when digital SLR bodys arrived ? For at least five years there were millions who thought how that is unusable trash and it will never replace film 🙂 The same thing is happening with movies today.
And there are other group of people who acts like they are blind and they need a year in FCPX to see just how everything is faster and more efficient, and “they just don’t see how the magnetic timeline is better ?”….Seriously ?!?! 🙂 It’s like those Americans who thought for 50 years that american cars are the best in the world, and now they drive Hondas and Toyotas 🙂
Tapes are dead for at least couple of years, but for some reason people who work on archaic equipment think that the future of NLEs has to support that. Today, there are much much more profesionals who work with progressive, tapeless file based, large sensor material, so why do I care for those TV guys who edit a footage with 1 mile DOF and need to use their artificial light with a first shadow ? THAT is history and we should move on and start editing far more effectively and much faster than ever. Yes, we need multicam, XML and better network support, but all that will come, and when it comes, AVID and Premiere will be in the same position they have already been in year 2003.
Bottom line, if you don’t want to use FCPX, just don’t. If you don’t want to use FCP 7, just don’t, use whetever you like, just stop complaining like you have no choice.
And just one thing, why the hell you want to import old finished project ever ? Again, it’s some small sensor, 1 mile DOF TV crap. You can use AVID for that, and just leave alone anyone who wants something way more efficient than those lego bricks always on a virge of shattering into pieces…
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