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Apple Posts New Videos Comparing FCPX to Adobe & Avid
Leo Hans replied 14 years, 9 months ago 33 Members · 71 Replies
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Rafael Amador
July 22, 2011 at 10:20 pm[Chris Jacek] “Like I said, I’m not willing to jump yet (I still have 3 Macs in addition to this PC)”
Chris, the idea of working with a PC is one of my worst nightmares and I hope I can keep working with a Mac, but my concern is on how future Apple decisions may affects AVID-on-Mac or PP-on-Mac users.
I don’t know why but I don’t trust Apple as I did till few weeks ago.
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Ray Wang
July 22, 2011 at 10:51 pmIt is an interesting counter attack from Apple.
Basically FCP7 was the same animal as Avid and Adobe (track editing). But Apple was careful to spend more time showing Avid and Premier screen shots than FCP7.
Also I think it is a bit waste of time too. All the features shown in the clips are well known and discussed (pros and cons).
It would be better advertising if Apple show (similar to what they did for FCP7), some cool projects to showcase FCP X (other than the Audi driving school clip). Cold Mountain 2 ?
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Alex Schwindt
July 22, 2011 at 10:54 pmI’m actually with Peter on this. Apple should have released these videos on Day One. They do a much better job of communicating their vision for editing than anything that’s come before. (and you have to give them some credit for lumping their own FCP 7 in with Avid and Premiere)
I’ve been a full-time filmmaker who’s been using FCP for years. I’ll be the first to admit that when FCP X was released I immediately got busy learning Premiere CS5.5. Adobe’s really gotten it’s act together with Premiere, and at this point I’m not sure I’d go back to FCP 7 even if it was re-released today. Premiere is just so much faster and more powerful.
Having said that, after spending a couple of days with FCP X I’m starting to get what Apple is thinking with this. A fellow filmmaker and I spent most of today messing around with it and we had a blast! We even purposely shot some “problem footage” with a DSLR just to see how FCP X would handle it. Again, we were impressed.
I’ll agree that it might not be ready for the big leagues (we crashed it once just doing a color correction). The idea of editing a 90-minute project with FCP X makes me nervous, and while I dig the color tools the absence of Colorista II is definitely a bummer. Probably me biggest hang-up with it is they way they completely abandoned standard terminology. It’s going to be hard to communicate with other filmmakers if “project” doesn’t mean “project”.
So I’m going to keep kicking the tires some more. I have a number of short-form projects coming up that this might be perfect for. The problem is that I don’t have tons of spare time to keep learning new editors. At some point I’m going to need to start developing some muscle memory with one weapon-of-choice editor…
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Flavio G. garcía
July 23, 2011 at 12:21 amThe videos are full of lies.
No other software has “Match Color”?.
Please…
Media Composer has that almost since day one.
Too complicated to keep things in synch in Media Composer, when trimming?.
Just use “Synch Locks”.
No stabilization inside the application?.
Again… Please…
Media Composer has the Stabilize effect, wich works great.
Are there interesting things in FCP X?.
Sure.
Do they lie in this videos?.
Sure.
Flavio G. Garc
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Rafael Amador
July 23, 2011 at 1:38 am[Flavio G. García] “The videos are full of lies.”
So you don’t think FCPX will give me more “creative freedom”?
I want more creative freedom, I don’t know what for, but must be great.
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Jonathan Dortch
July 23, 2011 at 1:53 am[Chris Harlan] “Hey Tom, I’ve got production suite 5. What are the reasons for going 5.5? Or can I comfortably wait to 6?
“For Premiere I’ve found 5.5 to be a significant upgrade from 5.0. Upgraded Keyboard customization, key framing in the timeline, more FCP7 like tool updates, Smooth cam, Far superior Dynamic Link manager integration.
If you are jumping in with Premiere I do think 5.5 is worth the upgrade.
JONATHAN DORTCH
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Chris Harlan
July 23, 2011 at 3:00 amThanks, Jonathan. I’m re-uping to Avid first, but I’m very interested in Premiere, as well. I’m just wondering how far away CS6 is.
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Chris Jacek
July 23, 2011 at 5:43 am[Rafael Amador] “Chris, the idea of working with a PC is one of my worst nightmares and I hope I can keep working with a Mac, but my concern is on how future Apple decisions may affects AVID-on-Mac or PP-on-Mac users.
I don’t know why but I don’t trust Apple as I did till few weeks ago.
rafael”Rafael,
I completely understand you and agree 100% with your concerns. I know there is a lot of frustration ahead for me in Windows world. But my thinking was that I have the opportunity to give myself transition time to become more comfortable with Windows. Like you, I do not trust Apple as much as I used to, but my mistrust started a year or two ago, and each new announcement or release seems to confirm my fears.
If the dominoes continue to fall as I suspect they will, Apple will no longer be the main hardware choice for video professionals in a couple years. Many have stuck with the Mac platform because of FCP, and the amazing Mac hardware performance, even if it came at a cost premium. Both of these reasons have been decaying in recent years, and I think they will continue to decay.
Right now I have the luxury of being able to work on Premiere and Avid on both platforms. If, over the next year or so, I find that I can be comfortable on both Windows and Mac, then I will may continue the transition. The hardware acceleration in Premiere with a CUDA NVidia card is damn impressive. Apple doesn’t even offer a laptop that is capable of this.
I feel dirty saying and thinking this as a long-time Apple fanboy and advocate, but sometimes the writing on the wall is just too hard to deny.
Professor, Producer, Editor
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Robert Brown
July 23, 2011 at 6:51 amIt’s kind of interesting because in a way Windows offers more stability time-wise. I mean how long did XP last? I still see computers on Windows 2000. At one point it seemed Windows pace was too slow but for me Apple has come to represent change whether it’s needed or not. Just change for the sake of change and it’s almost like watching people high on something.
The great thing about buying Macs is you can dual boot and so have both worlds, but maybe next time I’ll build a “Hackintosh” so I can still run OSX but save a couple thousand bucks. Over the last couple of years the pendulum seems to be going back the other way and it’s good that there are competitors so you can still get what you need and not have the latest whim jammed down your throat.
I think Apple’s biggest threat right now is just running out of relevant new ideas. That’s what I thought when I say Cloud introduced. Why bother? They seem addicted to trying to change everything but at some point it’s like I think I’ll just turn all of this crap off and read a book.
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Rafael Metz
July 23, 2011 at 12:57 pmOk, some concepts and ideas look nice without having them tested in depth and real life situations.
But that keyword thing looks like it has been concepted by an Excel Junkie. When they still type their keywords I´m ready with editing…in PPro :-)))
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