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  • Aindreas Gallagher

    October 19, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    [Richard Herd] “1-word answer: Hardware.”

    that is an incorrect answer. what has hardware got to do with the price of bread in this particular argument?

    the complete absence of FCPX in paid for jobs, either in the people offering them, or the people applying for them is – in absolutely no way – predicated on available hardware.

    FCPX is simply non-existent software, if you want to be paid to edit. As software, it turned out far too weird. Almost laughably weird in retrospect.

    (lets all dis-connect our secondaries from the primary, unless we’re doing a music edit – my god, evacuate the primary – it doesn’t work – detach the audio – we’ve lost sync? light the flares!!! where is the colour corrector? IT’s SQAURE? Help me Jesus – who came UP with this semantic mess?)

    LAFCPUG (wrong name now) tossed FCP – their name and focus has changed – everyone tossed it. It’s motion. Apple went off into their own weeds. they are more than able to do that.

    FCPX Is not an editing platform, its not an editing solution, it represents no editing practise – its just very slightly weird apple software.

    It is motion to after effects, aperture to lightroom.

    Apple gave in to their worst instincts, ignored the industry, and came out with a personal sonata that no one cared about the minute they heard it.

    FCPX will be on the appstore for a long, long time, at least as long as aperture or motion, but it is of a piece as a half dead internal proof of apple methodology sent to apple, by apple, for apple, where they assert their point of view, and ignore all external signals.

    FCP as was, with its basic logic and craft built in, that apple bought, is the outlier.

    Apple couldn’t make professional software, to sustain professional craft, to save its life.

    As people tasked with correctly perceiving needs and producing software, in a timely fashion, for creative mission critical industries, Apple are either the titanic, or the iceberg.

    take your pick.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Steve Connor

    October 19, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    How about a yawn emoticon, could we have one of those? We could use it when people say the the same thing over and over and over again

    Steve Connor
    ‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”

  • Craig Seeman

    October 19, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    Especially when the ignore seemingly very high sales numbers (when last reported) and the popularity of the FCPX Techniques forum and the constituency therein as reported by Tim Wilson.

    While there may be a scant few FCPX facilities, it would seem, as some of us see here and elsewhere on the interwebs, there seems to be places where single seats of FCPX are now being thrown into the “professional” (and that includes Broadcast) environment.

  • Franz Bieberkopf

    October 19, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “… seemingly very high sales numbers (when last reported)…”

    Craig,

    “Numbers” have never been “reported” (unless you’re using some new meanings of those words).

    Franz.

  • Craig Seeman

    October 19, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    I believe SCRI had a percentage of facilities (I forget the exact wording) of FCPX installs.

  • Franz Bieberkopf

    October 19, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “I believe SCRI had a percentage of facilities (I forget the exact wording) of FCPX installs.”

    Craig,

    A vague guess by an unknown third party is not “reported numbers”.

    Franz.

  • Craig Seeman

    October 19, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    SCRI wasn’t a “vague” guess. I’ve posted their reports here. They do facility surveys and they had a percentage of facilities that had FCPX seats. They weren’t claiming regular use (or any use) but that the facility penetration of FCPX (sitting somewhere on some system) was very high.

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    October 19, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    [Steve Connor] “over and over and over again

    you and me both connor.

    I say this software is a mess made for confused reasons that don’t favour editing as a craft. I’ll kick it ad infinitum.

    when I stop kicking it – it’s market dead. which it deserves to be.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Craig Seeman

    October 19, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    In Apple’s April briefing with Larry Jordan and others Apple mentioned there were more FCPX installs than FCP7 installs (note that’s only FCP7, not all FCPs though)). SCRIs numbers were something like 52% of the facilities purchased FCP within the last 12 months.

  • Franz Bieberkopf

    October 19, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    [Craig Seeman] “I’ve posted their reports here. They do facility surveys …”

    Craig,

    You are being a bit ingenuous. This says nothing about who they are, what their resources or objectives are. They’ve been soliciting people with chances to win iPads though (twice! in the last month):

    https://scri.com/nbcur.shtml/

    [Craig Seeman] “SCRI wasn’t a “vague” guess.”

    Here is the thread:
    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/335/32053#32104

    It includes this:

    [Craig Seeman] “Short of paying $1500 for the report, we are looking at coffee grounds. There’s a lot that’s not being clearly defined. 52% of “something” in broadcast and professional facilities have FCPX installed.”

    So we’ve agreed it’s vague.

    Franz.

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