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David Lawrence
March 27, 2013 at 10:28 pm[Marcus Moore] “How are you manipulating more than one primary clip at a time? Or are you just looking for a “tilde-lock” option?”
What I’m looking for is a tilde option that would be global to all connected clips, not just the one’s attached to the selected primary. Like Charlie mentioned, this is important with music for example, where you may have a mix spread out along the timeline that always needs to stay in sync relative to itself, not the primary. Mixing in a secondary, spiked to frame one seems like a hack to me.
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David Lawrence
March 27, 2013 at 10:29 pm[Charlie Austin] “Can’t speak for David, but if you want to do a swap edit, like move a clip 7 shots earlier in a cut, the tilde key will disconnect things from the clip you’re moving, but all the clips connected to the 7 shots that move in the swap move with them. Which, in my case, i didn’t want them to. You can work around it, but it would be nice to temporarily “disconnect all” if you need to.”
Bingo!
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Steve Connor
March 27, 2013 at 10:30 pm[Charlie Austin] “That’s what it looks like in a text editor, but in a database viewer it’s all organized and pretty. And indecipherable to me. XML I can read, databases… not so much. My nerd-fu is limited 🙂 Here:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/sqlitebrowser/
don’t open anything important! lol”
That’s what I used, it’s when you drill down to some of the data it get’s scary!
Steve Connor
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Charlie Austin
March 27, 2013 at 10:34 pm[Steve Connor] “That’s what I used, it’s when you drill down to some of the data it get’s scary!”
I’m going back in! Then i’m gonna change something! And open the project!!!! Or not. lol
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Aindreas Gallagher
March 27, 2013 at 10:49 pm[Charlie Austin] “it would be nice to temporarily “disconnect all” if you need to.”
god rather yes please. I throw pies at the software as a hobby really at this point – but there is a lot I like.
that said – the timeline behaviour will honestly never be one of those things. It really does form a brick wall of no thank you please.https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Franz Bieberkopf
March 27, 2013 at 11:02 pm[Marcus Moore] ” I’ve been wanting to get these ideas out …”
Marcus,
Please do.
Franz.
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Franz Bieberkopf
March 27, 2013 at 11:17 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “… there are implications for project sharing in core data apparently”
Aindreas,
Thanks for the link, some interesting stuff there.
(Aside – the blog notes that Quicktime Pro 7 is still available from Apple, in 2013.)
Yes, from what I was reading it seems like Core Data is a good solution for dealing with a database that exists in one place and doesn’t get up beyond some large number (which does seem to raise questions about using it for iCloud syncing, and multiple-users, and large projects …).
Nonetheless, all interesting, not least since I haven’t come across any info on how Avid or PPro projects are structured …
Franz.
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Aindreas Gallagher
March 27, 2013 at 11:33 pm[Franz Bieberkopf] “PPro projects are structured”
badly is the answer. It’s basically AE in effect – which is close to unusable in a modern editing system.
My completely ill informed perception is that its literally prehistoric project management architecture. One project at a time, relinking is a nightmare…that said, a birdie told me that is about to very, very radically change.
Also If DRW is on the money, we’re going to see an end to .5 releases – and a fundamental re-ordering of project sharing management in PPro.
If he is right, we go direct to PPro 7, and adobe lay down fairly serious cards.
that said – from the hints on here from reps – the audio channel oddities with assignment and audio channel based keyframing are here for a bit.
Also part of me isn’t sure whether the benefits of anywhere are bedded into day to day single user basic software operation.
I would be really surprised if the current project limitations survive the advent of adobe anywhere tho.I don’t think they could leave that AE style edit project handling crud in the next version – I’m presuming anywhere does bleed down to all basic footage and project handling architecturally in 7, outside of the specifics of the anywhere proposition.
Project handling in PPro cannot stay as it is.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Franz Bieberkopf
March 27, 2013 at 11:42 pmAindreas,
Your thoughts and misgivings, and the listed shortcomings of PPro mirror my own.
You seem to be closer with the birdies though.
I was referring more to database architectures and other things just over the horizon of my knowledge.
Franz.
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David Lawrence
March 27, 2013 at 11:59 pm[Aindreas Gallagher] “Project handling in PPro cannot stay as it is.”
Amen to that. I just got nailed by the Pr project handling stupids. I’ll survive this project but it’s lame and needs to change asap.
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