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Anyboby working with canon C300 footage yet?
Posted by Paul Mitchell on February 23, 2012 at 6:37 amHi guys
just wondering if anyone had graded Canon C300 footage yet with Resolve now that is supported.
I am curious to know what the footage looks like; log C, Rec 709?, what is it like to work with, etc
thanks in advance
Harry Rabin replied 13 years, 9 months ago 9 Members · 13 Replies -
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Laco Gaal
February 24, 2012 at 11:24 amhi,
what we know, without any footages:
– Canon’s C-log is not so low-contrast compared to – for example – Sony’s Slog: https://www.aedes.us/e/Jj6hk.jpg
So maybe the log-to-lin LUT will result a bit too contrasty pictures.
– it has a 4K sensor, but outputs 1080p, this means it doesn’t have the shortcomings of Bayer-sensors (all photosites have full data)
– compression is mpeg type (no more blocking, yay!), chroma subsampling is 4:2:2I’ll have some footage in my hands in two weeks
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Darren Mostyn
February 24, 2012 at 5:32 pmJust got my first C300 test shots this afternoon for a BBC documentary we are grading later in the year. Viewing on a BVM-D CRT the footage looked fantastic. None of the luts I have really worked for me, the footage was LogC, I graded manually from LogC (using joyball offset instead of gain) Noise artefacts were not present until pushed very hard. Keying was easy to achieve on skin and sky. Skin tones look different in a good way! The clips were not recognised natively (I am on version 8.1.2) but if I put them through FCP 7.0.3 log and transfer (with settings set to native) they were seen as XDCAM 422 HD files, 50Mb.Im on another job so cant do anymore for a few weeks but will keep you updated. You have to download the Canon driver for XF, there isn’t a dedicated C300 driver yet for FCP.
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Christopher Tay
February 25, 2012 at 4:09 amHi Darren,
Resolve 8.2 now supports the C300 natively so you should upgrade and give it a try.
-chrispy
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Harry Rabin
March 3, 2012 at 1:33 amI have been working with the C300 and must vent my utter frustration with seeing MOIRE. I’m a DP I’ve worked on feature films, Documentaries, Commercials etc…I did a simple GREEN SCREEN test and notice that our gaffers ribbed workbelt was exhibiting MOIRE all over the place, aliasing, waves of it on a wide shot. Shooting ISO 320, Subject F4.5, 1080P 23.98 using a canon 24-70 L glass and a ZEISS CP2 28MM…
How is this possible. I gave up waiting on a Scarlet thinking this is the holy grail! Can someone explain why I’m seeing such horrific Moire.
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Gabriele Turchi
March 3, 2012 at 5:34 ami got a job : ALEXA and Canon C300 , the canon looks like a JOKE …
way less dynamic range , noisy image , blocky compression …
horrible
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Colin Travers
March 3, 2012 at 7:00 pmCurious to know if you used the mxf format with a beta version of resolve or used a ProResHQ transcode? Any workflow advice on Resolve with c300 material – i see there may also be some LUT’s available from there website?
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Gabriele Turchi
March 3, 2012 at 7:29 pmi have used 8.2b4…
at this stage alexa is remarkably better … i was surpassed how many digital artifacts the canon have ..
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Harry Rabin
March 4, 2012 at 2:10 amUnfortunately I can only rent Alexas too much $$$ to buy. I was using MXF and not using the C-Log Canon Gamma setting but will test with that next. I worked on Zacutos shootouts for 2 years so believe me I will put the c300 trough the gauntlet and report what I find…
Scarlet seemed like the ideal choice but I couldn’t wait any longer and also after seeing Phillp Blooms blog it made me realize I would need to buy 2 of them for reliability factor. I had 2 Epics for a couple shoots and both times one went down! At least with Canon I trust their reliability but it may not be the right tool for certain projects. -
Harry Rabin
March 4, 2012 at 2:14 amMXF non-beta. I ued the XF Canon plugin ver 1.20 that was downloaded from Canons site for importing the MXF into FCP7. Do you think maybe the compression is causing the aliasing/moire? I’ve read that MXF is superior to Prores in several articles so I guess I need to try transcoding to other formats and comparing. Anyone out there that has a proven reliable C300 workflow feel free to chime in here? Maybe Tim Smith form CANON can shed some advice here. Vincent L.?
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