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  • Any Xsan users?

    Posted by John Heagy on January 19, 2012 at 1:16 am

    I’ve been experimenting with the “Add Xsan Location” as a replacement for our current FCP7 finder based project folders. The idea of one Xsan location containing all projects is not feasible. Add to this the fact that two users cannot use the same Xsan location at the same time and it’s a project/media sharing nightmare.

    Since it’s possible to add multiple Xsan locations it would be possible to use XSLs as project containers for each job. This would be similar to Avid’s project folder. The only thing missing is read only access instead of the current no access when another user has it “mounted”

    The substitution of “project” for “sequence” in FCPX is maddening when comparing FCP7 and FCPX workflows!!!

    John Heagy

    John Heagy replied 14 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Shawn Larkin

    January 19, 2012 at 1:44 am

    Hi John,

    Can you confirm that you can’t have multiple users mounted to the same Xsan FCPX Event at the same time?

    From what I understand, you can’t have multiple users opening the same FCPX Project at the same time. But I believe all the Events / Media are available.

    If not, please correct me. We are toying with the idea of jumping on Xsan soon; we are still on FCP7, but I’m waiting for FCPX to have another major release or some critical updates before adopting it or Premiere Pro.

    So confirmation of “how” you share Events / Media is a big deal.

    Thanks in advance.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    January 19, 2012 at 3:10 am

    I don’t have xsan, but rather metaSAN, so it’s probably different.

    You can’t have multiple users on an event or project.

    I have devised a manual check in/out system. Each user gets their own San location.

    There’s a Project/Event repository and users move events/projects in and out of it. If the event/project isn’t in the repository, it’s not available to anyone, save whoever has it in their location. We are small so this works just fine as we can easily track down missing events/projects. It wouldn’t really work for larger organizations, I imagine.

    it’s obvious metaSAN doesn’t understand Events/Projects yet as I actually can load the same location on two different computers and corrupt the event/project when two people update something simultaneously. Xsan might have different permissions, I’m sure metaSAN will get updated at some point to prevent this as well as it locks out other files as read only when being manipulated at the same time.

    Probably comes as a shocker, but it needs work.

  • John Heagy

    January 19, 2012 at 4:01 am

    [Shawn Larkin] “Can you confirm that you can’t have multiple users mounted to the same Xsan FCPX Event at the same time?

    Confirmed…

    When another machine tries to add an Xsan Location that is mounted by another machine, an error pops up indicating the machine name and user in “possession” of that location/folder. This prevents the second machine from adding it preventing any sharing, including any event or project, opened or not, inside that location/folder.

    Obviously this lock out must only be for writes and allow reads to enable sharing for starters. Eventually a publish/merge system is needed to allow updates to both Events and Projects from multiple users.

    It’s bad enough Apple has us at the end of the gang plank… is the sword at our back really necessary!

    John Heagy

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