AME export from PPro differs from preview on timeline?

[Jon Barrie]

Hi Jim,

Using SD upscaled to 1080 and then pan and scanned is never a good idea, but if this is what you need to do then I suggest instead of outputting a FullHD version and then converting it, try this.

As a test, create a new timeline that matches the dimension specs of your intended final clip. Then add the sequence of the edit to it so it is nested. Then right click on the sequence (as nested clip) and choose to “scale to frame” if this doesn’t fit the dimensions perfectly and I don’t think it will as 16×9 HD doesn’t actually fit to Widescreen SD (as it isn’t true 16×9). So you may need to tweak the scale setting instead.

I think the value for FullHD down to SD is somewhere around 54.5%. Tweak it so it fits properly. 🙂

Then find the area that looked really bad on the original export and find an in point, then hit Cmd+[ to set the work area in and Cmd+] at the playhead position to set the work area out.

Then hit Cmd+M to export. You will see the yellow bar on the bottom left has wrapped around the set work area in and outs and should only render out this small ‘test’ area.

Setup the export settings and Export or Send to the Queue. Let us know whether the result is any better. If so, you can set the export area (from the work area) to fit by zooming the timeline out all the way with the backslash key ‘\’ under backspace. When you see the whole timeline content double click on the current work area to reset the work area to the full length of the “edit”.

Then export again (Cmd+M) and the last settings used will still be there for export. And proceed to export the whole edit this way.

Hope it works out better for you. 🙂

– JB

Jon Barrie
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[Jimmy Brunger]

Hi Jon,

Thanks for your speedy reply!

Just tried what you suggested (new sequence @720×300 square pix > drop HD seq in + scale to frame size)…..

I am now getting the ‘tearing’ problem in the preview of timeline. HOWEVER – when I select the motion tab in effect controls – i.e: select the clip’s transform handles – it looks as it should. As soon as I deselect Motion it goes back to nasty white noise!

I then switched off Mercury GPU acceleration and then rendered the now red work area – all fine!?!

So looks like a Mercury/CUDA/Quadro problem?

Anyone had this before? The quadro has been amazing for me throwing multiple formats together and editing/scaling/messing with clips on the fly, so ideally don’t want to have to go back to rendering every time I want to view an output.

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[Jon Barrie]

At least you get to see the “issue” in the timeline now. And that you can export decently with Mercury in Software Mode. The GPU Acceleration forces all colourspace into Linear which can cause some visual problems where blurs etc come into play. Thankfully there appears to be a work around.

However…

The resolution you are outputting to is non standard, perhaps you have found a bug that hasn’t been tested before! Great! Seriously, that’s a good thing. File a bug report to adobe with as much detail regarding clips format codec export seq settings etc so they can replicate it and hopefully get to a fix.

Link here:
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

– JB

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[Jimmy Brunger]

Will do! Thanks for your help Jon.

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[Jimmy Brunger]

Bizarrely I’ve just gone back in to PPro to recreate the problem with GPU on and it’s not doing it now!?!

However I am now getting a ‘Error compiling movie. Unknown error’ message when trying to export from AME again!

IT just gets weirder…..

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[Jon Barrie]

Alright. Open the project. Go to preferences under premiere pro.

Select media, the click clean cache.

Then quit premiere pro. Wait a minute for all the bg bits to close and relaunch PPro.

If you see the conforming on the bottom right building with the yellow bar let it finish before operating any further. Shouldn’t take long. Once its done attempt another export.

Cheers JB

Jon Barrie
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[Jimmy Brunger]

Had to restart machine aswell, but all working now – even the problems I initially had!?

Contrary GFX card methinks….

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