AE Animation Codec Changing frame rate to 23.976

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IN AE, there is a difference between rendering and exporting. The two terms are NOT interchangable. And when it comes to exporting, here’s a good rule of thumb:

If AE gives you the choice between rendering and exporting, it’s best to render.

I could go into all the reasons why this is so, but then it wouldn’t be a rule of thumb, would it?

In your case, I would double-check my comp’s frame rate and the frame rate of the footage within that comp. If it all checks out, then add the comp to the Render Queue and have at it.

You’ll find LOADS of information about the Render Queue and rendering in general in AE Help.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV

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Another thought occurs to me…

You might have 24p footage (or 23.98, OR 23.976 — three names for the same frame rate)… and you might need it to be at 29.97. In which case, you HAVE to render and not export.

That’s reason #4 why, when given the choice between a render and an export, it’s better to export.

In the Output Module, click on the Add Pulldown thingie. Choose any one of the five pulldown patterns, and your’re good to start a-renderin’.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV

[Brad Beamer]

Dave –

I feel like sending you a check for $20. Thank you. I “rendered” instead of exported with the MPEG-2 (dvd) compression and it works beautifully.

Thanks again.

Brad

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[Dave LaRonde from the COW] “That’s reason #4 why, when given the choice between a render and an export, it’s better to export.”

I need to proof read better. The above phrase should read, “That’s reason #4 why, when given the choice between a render and an export, it’s better to RENDER.”

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV

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You’re quite welcome. I hope you realize now that there is a BIG difference between rendering and exporting in AE.

Lots of people who start out in AE think to themselves, “Well, I’ll just export. Why fool around with that Render Queue nonsense? It just wastes time!”

WRONG! Those people just don’t get it. They’re more worried about getting going and doing something than they are with knowing all the possibilities for file creation: a tidbit of knowledge that can really save their little pink tushes. They’re looking for an easy way out, and as you discovered, they can end up wasting more time than they ever saved.

Rendering and using the Render Queue give you FAR more flexibility and many more choices in creating your final work. In the end, I find it actually saves time: I can get multiple comps ready to go, add them to the Render Queue, save the project, and AE will render the entire batch as I just walk away.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV

[Brad Beamer]

Yeah it’s ok, I was able to pick that up. Rendering is key.

Just curious, why would anyone export? It seems almost all of the same options are in the render queue that are in the exporting tool. Like you said, you can very simply render multiple compositions at once and just walk away. Plus it seems like the rendering queue works faster than the exporting tool. Just something I noticed.

Since you are very knowledgeable, I have one more question – for the future, do you know why when I try and render a composition (only 14 min) as an uncompressed AVI I get a “Not enough space on drive” error at exactly 4.0 GB into the render? The total video is projected on the render queue to be 33GB. I have over 400GB free. Is it possibly a RAM issue?

For this case it was fine, I was able to compress as a MPEG-2 and then put it straight onto a DVD. But for future circumstances, if I want to transfer the video to a different program (like Premiere) I’ll want an uncompressed video if possible.

Thanks again Dave

Brad

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[beamertdog] “Just curious, why would anyone export?

…do you know why when I try and render a composition (only 14 min) as an uncompressed AVI I get a “Not enough space on drive” error at exactly 4.0 GB into the render? … I’ll want an uncompressed video if possible. “

There are certain things you can only do through exporting. For example, I’ll occasionally use AE’s Reverb effect on an aiff, and the only way to make the new audio file is to export it.

I’m a mac guy and not a windows guy, but is sounds like AVIs might have a 4GB limit on file size. But you don’t REALLY need uncompressed to retain the best quality, you simply need to use a lossless codec. For quicktime, I swear by the Animation codec set to best quality. I’m clueless about its windows counterpart.

Why lossless instead of uncompressed?

Here’s why: imagine you have a 50-page word processor document to email. So you run it trough Zip or Stuffit. You know that when the file is unzipped or unstuffed on the other end, every period, comma, number and letter is going to be there, right? And why is that? Because Zip and Stuffit act like lossless codecs, that’s why.

Dave LaRonde
Sr. Promotion Producer
KCRG-TV

[Brad Beamer]

Well, despite being a Mac guy, you were able to answer a windows question.

You were right about whty my AVI was erroring at 4 GB everytime I rendered.

I was putting this export onto my external hard drive. My computers hard drive is formatted as NTFS. My external is formatted as FAT32.

FAT32 has a limitation that any file cannot exceed 4 GB. So if I just had saved to my hard drive, I would have been fine.

Thanks again Dave

Brad