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Posted by Bob Dix on February 15, 2011 at 9:46 pm

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Any ideas , anyone ?

Feb 15, 2011 2:26 PM in response to: nealeh
Re: Elements 9 Freezes on Adding Canon DSLR video files

Nealeh,

Still using PE 4 , This “memory problem” has persisted since then only with H.264 not HDV/ mpeg-2 avi ,PE 4 does mainly what I want.

Project is 1920 x 1080 HD @25fps, but, I mainly go to Export to Tape at 1440 x 1080 HDV/mpeg-2 and Export to Blu-ray when I need. The web stuff is no problem, no GB there.

It has always been NTFS

I think what it is , is the Windows limitation of 4GB for a 32 bit application, the same happens in the Canon 5D mark II when it gets to 4GB it stops and if you have a large 8GB Card you just start again , with video that is . My wife finds PE and Photoshop Elements easy to use for her craft work, I usually fine tune the footage in Premiere Pro which she finds a mystery, but, it is actually easier to use and with NO crashes, ever.,

Regardless I make the PE4 work with the simple edits etc. work, I just thought there may be an easy solution , if it crashes, which is not that often, if you treat it kindly. ?

Thanks

The only reason I replied to this Re : Elements 9 Freezes on Adding Canon DSLR video files is >>, I could not believe this problem persisted with the new PE 9. I did not have a Memory problem untill we got the Canon 5D mark II with the H.264 mov 1920 x 1080 p files.And that is after using Panasonic 3ccd’s , Sony Digitals and a Canon HV 20/30/40 all of which caused no editing issues.

I might add this issue only occurrs in Premiere Elements, not, Sony Vegas Pro and never in Premiere Pro on both the Pentium 4 3.4GHZ Hyper-threaded or the i7 64 bit Server Quad Core all to Adobe specifications including the video cards.

On that basis you would assume something wrong with PE4 even PE 9 , although when it works, which is quite often, the end product is superb.

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Bob Dix replied 14 years, 11 months ago 2 Members · 6 Replies
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Tim Kolb
February 16, 2011 at 10:41 pm

Not sure what you’re looking for here…

Premiere Elements 4 was a 2007 release…the Canon 5D MkII didn’t even appear until a year later…and MPEG4 support was only introduced in Premiere Elements designed for AVCHD (a much more likely consumer video format considering Premiere Elements is aimed at consumers for their personal media), which is very low data rate compared to DSLR, which is up around 50 Mbits/s.

PPro CS5 handles DSLR H264 (H264 is a subset of MPEG4) pretty well, but you have to have some serious processor cores to make it usable.

I think it’s unrealistic to expect Premiere Elements 4 to handle DSLR footage…the other formats mentioned are either MPEG2, or DVCProHD…both far easier to process…not to mention they existed when Premiere Elements 4 was written, which is why they’re supported.

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,
Bob Dix
February 17, 2011 at 12:04 am

Thanks Tim,

I appreciate what you say, and yes, it is unlealistic to expect it to handle H.264 efficiently. I thought I would try it as Premiere Pro 1.5.1 could not. Low and behold it did process it and can even write/burn Blu-Ray DVD ‘s . But, to use it to edit was a slow process, but, it does and easily converts the H.264mov out of the Canon 5D mark II to avi using the Media Encoder to process in Premiere Pro’

I just wondered why too many clips caused an issue with “MEMORY” ?

regards,

Bob

Freelance Imaging & Video
AUSTRALIA

Ps.And , yes we now have serious processing power with a new i7 Quad-Core Professional WorkStation Server Processor designed for CS5
Bob Dix
February 17, 2011 at 12:13 am

The old PE 4 will burn Blu-Ray as H.264 and mpeg-2 as well ? ie., from a 1920x 1080 HD timeline.

Freelance Imaging & Video
AUSTRALIA
Tim Kolb
February 17, 2011 at 12:37 am

[Bob Dix] “Ps.And , yes we now have serious processing power with a new i7 Quad-Core Professional WorkStation Server Processor designed for CS5”

That’s great, but your question is regarding Premiere Elements…version 4.

The version comparison from Adobe is here:

https://www.adobe.com/products/premiereel/upgrade/?view=compare

The system requirements for version 9 (current version) is here:

https://www.adobe.com/products/premiereel/systemreqs/

Since I see no evidence that Premiere Elements 9 is a 64 bit application, I assume that version 4 must not be either…therefore it doesn’t matter how much RAM you may have, Premiere Elements as a 32 bit app is limited to 4 GB max.

It’s possible that there is an issue with how it handles the H264 files (since it’s basically foreign for the software so it’s depending on outside media components like QT to interpret the footage) and it hits its memory ceiling?

I have no idea…

The basic limitation is that the software was never tested with a format that didn’t exist when it was released, so I’d guess there is no official line on it…and Premiere Elements being a 79.00 USD program is likely upgraded without much hesitation by most users, whereas it takes a bit more to upgrade professional applications, especially when they require hardware upgrades as well…

I’d say you’d probably eliminate lots of headaches by getting current at least… No software company supports legacy applications 4 versions back…it’s just impossible to do so.

The chart shows that Premiere Elements 4 does burn to Blu Ray though…but I don’t know what it will encode. I did some training for Elements once upon a time, but it was version 7.

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,
Bob Dix
February 17, 2011 at 1:16 am

YES it is about PE4,

I release now that there is a 4GB limit on a 32 bit application, you have confirmed it. And that is the cause of the issues. And , PE is not a 64 bit application, and as i said I will now go to CS5 and ignore PE 9. Your input is appreciated, thanks.

Freelance Imaging & Video
AUSTRALIA
Bob Dix
June 10, 2011 at 10:27 pm

Hi Tim,

Re: Your input some months ago, I have installed Windows XP Mode and the Windows Virtual Application in the i7 64 bit computer and both, Premiere Elements 4( Export to blu-ray as H.264 or HDV mpeg-2 ) and Premiere Pro 1.5.1 run perfectly , regardless of the 32 bit applications they both run significantly better on the Quad Core. CS5 5.5 was trialled and I found no significant improvement in speed of basic editing ?

Freelance Imaging & Video
AUSTRALIA

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