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Adobe – IBC
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[Herb Sevush] “so what do I care how many other aps they make for CC.”
I care because they are spending subscription dollars developing them. Selfish, yes, but I don’t want to pay a monthly for sh** I don’t use.
Scott Witthaus
Owner, 1708 Inc./Editorial
Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC
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BTW – is there any Apple or FCPX news out of IBC yet?
PS: I do realize that the FCPX World presentations aren’t until this weekend.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Scott Witthaus] “It’s like the creeping bloat of the CC as a whole. I want a good editor. I don’t need a “social panel” nor VR. Nor do I need 75% of the rest of the cloud. I want a solid, fast editing platform where I decide how to expand, not paying Adobe to decide for me.”
Apple does decides what is best for you and you pay them. There is not really any difference between Apple and Adobe in that respect.
[Scott Witthaus] “I care because they are spending subscription dollars developing them. Selfish, yes, but I don’t want to pay a monthly for sh** I don’t use.”
Apple develops Apple TV, The iPad Pro, Garage Band, Numbers, Pages, iMovie etc.
I am not a fan of the monthly subscription paradigm but having said that you seem very angry and upset with Adobe. Why? Are you letting us know that if Adobe sold Premiere Pro for $299.99 with a free upgrade path for life that you would dump FCPX for Premiere Pro?
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[Scott Witthaus] “I care because they are spending subscription dollars developing them. Selfish, yes, but I don’t want to pay a monthly for sh** I don’t use.”
But, by that logic, there are folks who believe FCPX should be $50, because it, too, has stuff in it that they don’t need or don’t want to use.
Or better yet, why can’t it be free like Resolve (non-Studio versions)?
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Scott Witthaus] “Why? To become more like Avid? An increasingly niche product? What good can come of that? “
Avid, while now considered Niche, was at one time the gold standard for NLE’s and I’ve yet to see any NLE that has a better overall design.
And many of these latest developments are really just getting us back to where we were many years ago on Avid. Shared projects, locked bins, etc. All standard Avid features circa 2010.
I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
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I don’t have a clue.
(100% speculative uninformed by anything rambling follows, be warned)
It seems to me that a HUGE driver of the change to X was the new possibilities afforded by the dual factors of migration to OS X and the huge increase in procrssing power modern CPU/GPUs allowed.
These boxes (even the smartphones!) have WICKED power now.
Heck, I got a link from my friend Michael Kammes earlier that kinda shocked me.
https://thenextweb.com/apple/2017/09/12/apples-new-iphone-x-already-destroying-android-devices-g/#.tnw_7XmteyeVThe new iPhones appear to have processing power pretty much on par with modern Laptops. And we know the gap between those and desktop computers is pretty narrow and closing fast.
So it seems to me that there is a MUCH more “open horizon” in NLE potential today than we’ve ever seen before.
We know Apple is into Ai and Machine Learning as are other similar vendors. But what we don’t know is what form that will take.
We did have a spirited discussion on another board between guys using an IPad running Colorista via Duet as a “live” grading interface for X.
They said it worked surprisingly well!
When everything things run this fast, new possibilities open up, I guess.
Fun times.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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[Herb Sevush] “They’re helpful in visually organizing your assets, just as in the Finder window. Visual organization is a big thing for me, YMMV.”
Yeah, not going to help you I’m afraid.
One of the big shifts in X thinking was a huge diminishing of the traditional emphasis on Finder organization via virtual folders. It’s just not very important to x workflows since X’s “tagged Range” system pretty much eliminates folders as interim steps between what the editor wants – And calling up and landing that asset into a storyline.
it’s a different approach for sure.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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I personally doubt it, but I could be wrong.
The fact that the totally FCP X focused Creative Summit is just 5 weeks away makes me think Apple marketing would rather do any reveals when they can get complete market Focus.
But the NAB thing was a surprise to me this year so who knows?
Bummed I had to cancel on Amsterdam myself. I had flights booked and everything, but family issues over the past week made my cancellation a month ago look like I was positively channeling Uri Geller.
I’ve promised my wife next year for sure.
Oh well.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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[Bill Davis] “It seems to me that a HUGE driver of the change to X was the new possibilities afforded by the dual factors of migration to OS X and the huge increase in procrssing power modern CPU/GPUs allowed.”
Hmm… I understand what you are saying, but I don’t see any large migration to macOS or Mac computers in general. At least not more than 7 years ago, for example. Yes, the numbers are up, but not significantly. Especially among folks who work with media, as they have already historically been a large part of the Apple user base. And for power, the PC side still has Mac beat (leaving cost out of the equation).
Of course, more powerful Macs benefit Apple’s NLE competitors just as they do FCPX, although X is (theoretically) more optimized for these machines. Either way, Apple wins ☺
[Bill Davis] “The new iPhones appear to have processing power pretty much on par with modern Laptops. And we know the gap between those and desktop computers is pretty narrow and closing fast.”
True, but raw processing power is only part of the story. That doesn’t necessarily translate into a good media computing platform. Although I’ve run LumaFusion on my iPad and it’s very fluid with things that would definitely be challenging on a Mac.
https://digitalfilms.wordpress.com/2017/08/12/lumafusion-an-ios-nle/
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Bill Davis] “One of the big shifts in X thinking was a huge diminishing of the traditional emphasis on Finder organization via virtual folders”
That’s no different than in any other NLE. A finder folder doesn’t have to be the same as the bin/folder inside of the NLE interface. In fact, for most editors, they aren’t the same. Effectively an FCPX Event is the exact same thing as an Avid Bin – and it’s more or less the same as a Premiere Pro bin.
The innovation of X is the use of keyword collections as well as range selections. But that doesn’t negate Event/Bin/Folder/etc thinking in X anymore than in other NLEs. Unless of course, you adopt Simon’s total smart collection-driven approach.
https://fcpxpert.net/2016/05/14/guest-post-one-smart-collection-to-rule-them-all/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjuCfJFhdo0&feature=youtu.be
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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