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A stack of white plates
Hi, I am editing a cooking show, and seem to be unable to remove flickering/field issues.
Shot in HDV 1080 60i, editing in HDV. Fields set to None, seemed to give me the least issues. Exported out each Sequence as a self contained quicktime, current settings. Dropped into NTSC 720×480 4:3 timeline, kept the fields at None (looked the best). Tried Prores in there somewhere, and didn’t notice anything better.
Looks fine on computer. Print to tape, and played on my 57 inch sony projection HDTV, and the stack of white plates ripple with movement. Mini blinds, rippled. I am Several days past my delivery date, and really need to find an answer.
Right now I’m trying to export out a Quicktime in ProRes, with the Deinterlace box checked. It’s a 30 min show, with lots of color correcting in it, and wow, my render times are out of this world.
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[Lisa Koza] “Shot in HDV 1080 60i, editing in HDV. Fields set to None”
This is incorrect.
Keep it interlaced if you shot interlaced. For Sd too.
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I know and I agree! But I had it as upper, and then was dropping the HDV sequence into a SD Lower timelime, and it was horrible. What should the final timeline be at? Lower or Upper, or even None? I also have some SD lower field commercials to incorporate into the cut of the show, so I have mixed formats to deal with.
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[Lisa Koza] “But I had it as upper, and then was dropping the HDV sequence into a SD Lower timelime, and it was horrible.”
HDV should be upper. The Sd timeline should be lower. If you need to use a shift fields filter.
Or better yet, take the HDV master out to Compressor and make an Sd LFF version there.
Make sure the input fields are set to upper and output fields set to lower.
Jeremy
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Jeremy, I sent out a minute test from my HDV sequence, which was re-set to upper, out to compressor, used Apple ProRes 422, NTSC – CCIR 601, Field Lower, 720X480 16:9. Dropped that into an SD sequence, 3:2, anamorphic unchecked, NTSC – CCIR 601, ProRes 422 compressor. Looks like crap! Not only are the white plates still doing their thing, now everyone’s eyes looks like their shut. What am I doing wrong?? Should I have it 4:3? I see interlaced lines all over this on my screen.
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Should be 720×486 for ProRes,
See here:
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/1114458Do you need 4×3 center cut or letterbox?
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Letterbox. So 480, which should be 486, could be the culprit for their eyes?
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Can you post a screengrab?
Do you have a proper broadcast monitor?
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No Monitor. Testing it by printing to tape and playing it on my TV, using my cam. Freelance Editor here, not the big time. I have a 57 inch HDTV (projection, not LCD) and an older tube TV, digital, ect, does wide, but a little older. It of course looks better on the latter.
At one point, in the beginning, my footage looked OK, it was before I started nesting my HDV sequences into my SD timeline. Does nesting ever do anything, in a bad way?
This is a cooking show with Mario Andretti in it, he’s local to where I live, and well, of course all jobs should look their best, but.
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I can’t see what you’re seeing.
You’re saying it looks good on the sd monitor and bad on the hd?
The hd monitor is probably doing a bad job of scaling.
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Here is a little clip. This was done with dropping my HDV footage right into an SD sequence.
https://files.me.com/lisakoza/a4d1ic.mov
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