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  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 17, 2010 at 3:53 am

    OK, so you are letter boxing. to DV tape? Digibeta?

    Look, it’s going to be virtually impossible to help you virtually with all those different kinds of media.

    Once you tell me the tape format, I’ll help you with a Compressor setting and you can see if you like it.

    If not, you will have to get someone who can see what they are doing and help you online it.

    Jeremy

  • Lisa Koza

    December 17, 2010 at 3:58 am

    The station is happy with just a mini DV. So, what you’re sayin here is that this IS a wacky set up, huh? I just need them all to work together….but the most important is the show footage.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 17, 2010 at 4:10 am

    [Lisa Koza] “So, what you’re sayin here is that this IS a wacky set up, huh?”

    It’s just a mixed bag. A person would need to be there to sort it all out. It would require a true online, which might mean recapturing/converting some footage so it all matched correctly. Since we can’t really do that over the internet without staying up all night/day, try this:

    So, after you export the movie like I told you and bring in to Compressor,

    In the presets, find the DV NTSC option (Apple > Other Workflows > Advanced Format Conversions > Standard Definition) and drag that setting to your clip in the batch window.

    Now click on the thumbnail and you should see the a/v attributes come up in the inspector. Make sure the native field dominance is set to upper.

    Now click back on the setting bar in the batch window (right next to the clip thumbnail). In the inspector find the frame controls button. Turn them on by hitting the little gear.

    Set your Resize filter to best, Your output fields to bottom first, deinterlace to fast, rate conversion to fast.

    Then find the geometry button.

    Make sure the frame size is set to 720×480 and pixel aspect ratio is set to NTSC 601/DV.

    In the Padding section, make sure it’s set to 16×9, 1.78:1.

    Set a destination in the settings bar, name it, and hit submit. Then wait.

    When it’s done, post a few seconds of that final movie.

    Jeremy

  • Lisa Koza

    December 17, 2010 at 11:54 am

    thank you again, for such detailed instructions, you rock! Here is a clip that went thru that process. I still see interlacing issues on my computer screen however, which actually, I use a 26inch 1080p HDTV as a monitor. And I see a jagged edge on my 57 inch in playback. What do you see? It does play smooth though.

    1415_outtest.mov.zip

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 17, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    I’ll have to check when I get ot the office on a proper monitor, but the prelim looks good.

    [Lisa Koza] ” I still see interlacing issues on my computer screen however, which actually, I use a 26inch 1080p HDTV as a monitor. “

    Meaning out of your DVI or something? Of course you are going to see interlace issues, you aren’t using an accurate monitoring setup.

    Also, the goal wasn’t to deinterlace this movie, was it? Sd is usually interlaced. The material was shot interlaced. I don’t see a super compelling reason to deinterlace here.

    If you watched this on a nomral setp (that is an SD TV) I’m sure it’d look great. I will double check later today.

    Jeremy

  • Gary Adcock

    December 17, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    [Lisa Koza] “Testing it by printing to tape and playing it on my TV, using my cam. Freelance Editor here, not the big time. I have a 57 inch HDTV (projection, not LCD) and an older tube TV, digital, ect, does wide, but a little older. It of course looks better on the latter.”

    Lisa,

    you are looking at a down converted HD > SD image that is being upconverted (god knows how) on a 57″ HD projection TV?

    You wonder why it looks bad?
    You took HD and made it SD then converted it back to HD. Basically the fine detail needed to hold onto the edges of the plates has been lost in the Downconversion

    You are working on an older (assumed) Projection HDTV that is taking your 726 pixel wide image and enlarging it to be 1920 pixels and displaying it on a 57 in wide display?

    Projection TV’s have notoriously bad conversion tools built , one 4 yr old Sony unit a friend of mine has cannot even do a 720 > < 1080 conversion properly.

    gary adcock
    Studio37

    Post and Production Workflow Consultant
    Production and Post Stereographer
    Chicago, IL

    https://blogs.creativecow.net/24640

  • Lisa Koza

    December 17, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    Well at one point, during a review, I had it looking pretty great actually. But come to think of it, I might have been reviewing it off a DVD that I burned. It was still an SD sequence that went into DVDSP, but it looked much better.

    Now I’ve been doing it with my cam, print to tape, and just hookin it up with a composite cable. Am I to guess that’s even worse? I just want it to broadcast proper, and look good.

  • Gary Adcock

    December 17, 2010 at 3:52 pm

    [Lisa Koza] ” Am I to guess that’s even worse? I just want it to broadcast proper, and look good.”

    Composite is going to be the lowest quality signal out of your camera, so no you are not helping yourself any, I bet somewhere there is a component connection on the camera – that would be better.

    gary adcock
    Studio37

    Post and Production Workflow Consultant
    Production and Post Stereographer
    Chicago, IL

    https://blogs.creativecow.net/24640

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 17, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    The DV clip you made looks like dv to me. If you watch it on an old tube monitor, it looks fine. I have an Sd tube monitor that I routed to it, and this clip looks normal. I can’t say the same for the rest of your piece. 🙂

    Jeremy

  • John Pale

    December 17, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    Not trying to be a smart ass, but you really need to hire someone with a technical background to help you with your workflow.

    You are doing nearly everything wrong, and trying to sort it all out online in a blizzard of posts (with incomplete info) is next to impossible.

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