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  • A Nice AVCHD workflow… Just for the heck of it!

    Posted by Richard Ragon on May 5, 2007 at 12:09 am

    Hey, I just wanted to show you guys this.. I’m making a little bit of headroom on a camera they say can’t be edited at the moment.

    I used Ulead Studio 11 plus to import in the AVCHD .m2ts files from the camera. I then created a uncompressed timeline, and dropped the videos into the timeline. I then, export the video to a quicktime file, using blackmagic 10-bit codec at 1920×1080. The result is a near 2 Gigs per second video.

    Keep in mind these are some huge file sizes, and I can’t play them in real time on both my PC nore Mac.

    I them import the 10-bit uncompressed footage into FCP, and export to Quicktime DVCPRO HD 1080i60. Then I create a project with sequence settings DVCPRO HD, and drop my new clips into them. I can edit the True HD video without the need for any RAID systems or special hardware.

    I was also thinking of using the Apple Intermediate Codec, but I think that DVCPRO HD is slightly better quality. I’m looking forward to see what Apple brings up in the new Apple ProRes 4:2:2 codec.

    I have a sample for your enjoyment of my Mom and Dan with my kids walking down 3rd street in Santa Monica.

    Let me know what you think? Notice this clip was taken at night, and look how nice the camera handles dark light. 🙂

    https://www.deepmagicstudios.com/videos/avchd_test_HD.mov

    Well Hey! HD on a 1K camera! 🙂

    Richard Ragon replied 18 years, 12 months ago 7 Members · 16 Replies
  • 16 Replies
  • David Roth weiss

    May 5, 2007 at 5:18 am

    Wow, that looks almost as good as HDV on a bad day.

    Sorry Richard, but I just don’t get it, all that work and…

    Hopefully FCP6 will give you a better solution.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Nick Meyers

    May 5, 2007 at 8:16 am

    i dont get it.

    why have you got that huge file stage in the middle?

    nick

  • Arnie Schlissel

    May 5, 2007 at 12:21 pm

    Don’t know if it will handle these files for you, but you might want to try MPEG Streamclip. If it can, this will let you do the transcoding in 1 step on your Mac from AVCHD to DVCPro HD.

    https://www.squared5.com/

    Arnie
    Now in post: Peristroika, a film by Slava Tsukerman
    https://www.arniepix.com/blog

  • Richard Ragon

    May 5, 2007 at 4:44 pm

    I guess you guys don’t know too much about AVCHD yet. There is nothing that edits AVCHD footage yet. Including http://www.squared5!

    The fact that I got this into DVCPRO HD, is something that no one has been able to accomplish yet.

    Now, that being said, My next Mac will have a BlackMagic Intensity Card and I eliminate all those steps, however this was a demonstation of something that is still not doable yet.

    -Richard

  • Richard Ragon

    May 5, 2007 at 4:48 pm

    Because thats the only way to save it from AVCHD and get it into the Mac without a loss of quality.

    If there’s a CODEC that both PC and MAc will share I’m all ears.

    -richard

  • Rennie Klymyk

    May 5, 2007 at 7:25 pm

    I’d like to see what the AG-HSC1U 3 chip camera can do. It’s pretty cool that you can record this stuff on SD memory cards. Still long GOP formats are a bad choice for acquisition. The AVC -intra codecs look good. I wonder how long it will be before we see an inexpensive camera utilizing it. Even if it requires P2 for capture you could get a lot on the card and P2 keeps getting cheaper and bigger. An AG-HSC1U that utilizes the AVC-intra codec would be something to pack in your side pouch for emergencies.

  • Graeme Nattress

    May 5, 2007 at 9:09 pm

    AIC is a bit better quality than DVCProHD, and ProRes would be superior, if overkill.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

  • Richard Ragon

    May 5, 2007 at 10:47 pm

    >>Wow, that looks almost as good as HDV on a bad day.

    No, it’s actually better than HDV at true 1920×1080. HDV is only 1440×1080.. And half the camera size as near any HDV camera, plus no tapes, easier on the batteries, and cost 1/2 of what HDV cameras cost.. Yeah.. it looks great.

    >>Sorry Richard, but I just don’t get it, all that work and…

    You don’t get that the HDV standard is only temporary until a new tapeless standard comes like AVCHD or P2??

    >>Hopefully FCP6 will give you a better solution.

    Hopefull is nice, but people like me are “doing now”.

    -richard

  • David Roth weiss

    May 5, 2007 at 11:16 pm

    [Richard] “No, it’s actually better than HDV at true 1920×1080. HDV is only 1440×1080.. And half the camera size as near any HDV camera, plus no tapes, easier on the batteries, and cost 1/2 of what HDV cameras cost.. Yeah.. it looks great.

    You don’t get that the HDV standard is only temporary until a new tapeless standard comes like AVCHD or P2??”

    No Richard, you don’t get that my statement about “HDV on a bad day” had nothing whatsoever to do with HDV and everything to do with the example you provided, which made your lengthy process look like a big waste of time.

    Most people show examples that are actually exemplary of something they are trying to show. Perhaps in the future you might consider just writing a post that says it looks great here, but I’m unable to post an example that accurately reflects what I’m seeing. Others, including me, might share in your enthusiasm, but that sample had the opposite effect.

    Sorry, I’m just reacting to what you showed. After all, we are in the business of show…

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Richard Ragon

    May 6, 2007 at 4:32 am

    >>Most people show examples that are actually exemplary of something they are trying to show. Perhaps in the future you might consider just writing a post that says it looks great here, but I’m unable to post an example that accurately reflects what I’m seeing. Others, including me, might share in your enthusiasm, but that sample had the opposite effect.

    Sorry, but the overwhelming good responces that I recieved, simply just makes you crappy comments void.. Get over yourself.

    -Richard

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