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A few clues
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Look here: https://barefeats.com/fcpx01.html“
Yeah, I’ve read that before. One thing it show is the realiance on the GPU.
3. GPU – We observed 300+MB of VRAM in use while rendering blur effects. And according to OpenGL Driver Monitor, the CPU had to constantly wait for the GPU. To better illustrate the GPU effect, we plan to render the Blur Effects using various Mac Pro GPUs like we did with our Motion 5 testing. Stay tuned for those results.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Explain, please.”
Speaking of a supposed future’s scenario, my hunch is
-You will only run iOS onto their machines.
-You will only buy Apps at their store.
-You will only use very, very selected gear.It is a claustrophobic ecosystem, isn’t it ?
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[Christian Schumacher] “Speaking of a supposed future’s scenario, my hunch is
-You will only run iOS onto their machines.
-You will only buy Apps at their store.
-You will only use very, very selected gear.It is a claustrophobic ecosystem, isn’t it ?”
Yes. It is their system, sure, but it’s not happening quite yet. As far as gear, Apple has always been selective, that is nothing new. iOS doesn’t run on computers, just mobile devices.
Did you see this posted by Bill Davis the other day? It brings up a lot that you mention:
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “but it’s not happening quite yet.”
You are talking about its current state while I am speculating on its future state.
[Jeremy Garchow]
As far as gear, Apple has always been selective, that is nothing new.”Well, things can worsen a lot if hardware and software are created to be more closed.
[Jeremy Garchow] ” iOS doesn’t run on computers, just mobile devices.”
I know that. Again, I’m talking about their future hardware consolidation.
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My hand is up Shane. I mix for broadcast, some cinema and everything ends up on the web as well. Few editors need to monitor 5.1 and almost no edit suites I have seen have a proper 5.1 speaker setup. Both my suites have 5.1, plus stereo and mono fold downs so I can monitor all variations. Studio A is for grading, online and playout to HDCam (yes folks most broadcasters and international distributors still demand a tape out regardless of what Apple think). Studio B is the main sound post room but both have identical speakers and amps.
Minimum requirement for an editing app that is a feed in to a professional world where grading, onlining and sound post are normal requires export functionality that is slowly becoming part of FCP X. The fact that it was missing in action and is expected to be a third party developer fix says louder than anything else that FCPX was not targeting a professional broadcast or cinema market.
Trick things like 5.1 monitoring are gimmicks I expect in wannabe software and shows how little about a professional workflow that the software team behind FCPX actually have. When export in and out pipelines are working robustly and I can see an image on a professional monitor via a card like AJA, then I will tell editors that they can start to play with FCPX as a viable editor in my workflow.
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Shane, I hear what you are saying about what you need and I think you hear what I need in Sports/News.
As a person who works on some of the most watched events on Television I know what I need also.
You point out that many people still use tape. I know that, because ESPN and FOX that are MY clients are in that mode to.
The difference seems to be that I’m in their face telling them to move away from tape everyday.
As a shooter I HATE tape. As an Editor I HATE tape. I don’t want to work with it anymore.
I work on many sports round table shows as a shooter and our AVID editor always says “make sure you jam timecode on those cameras” (we may have five on a small show)
With X you don’t have to worry about that because it syncs with sound.
As a PRO shooter I would rather not worry about jamming TC. It just slows me down in the field.
When News is breaking and there is a press conference I don’t WANT to worry about TC.
I don’t want to go through tape libraries looking for shots of Stan the Man.
Get what I am saying? I don’t WANT to work like that anymore. It’s old.
I have worked on the biggest stages in the world, and I don’t care about labels.
I care about doing good work and getting paid.
The faster I can move your stuff out the door the more stuff I can work on and get paid more.
We just need different things.
I don’t know about other people on here, but in the world I work in it’s all about them looking at their watches thinking “I hope I don’t have to pay you overtime.”
We both get paid and work on big shows. We are just focused on different things.
Doesn’t make either of us bad or good. Just different.
Tony West
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[tony west] “As a PRO shooter I would rather not worry about jamming TC. It just slows me down in the field.”
Well, as an editor, without jamming TC, a lot of time is used dealing with this issue. A lot. What takes you a few minutes to do, saves hours, if not a day, in post.
ALL ROADS LEAD TO POST. Gotta remember that. Everything you shoot, all the audio that is recorded…all winds up in one place…post production. That is where things are assembled. Don’t take a few minutes to do things right in the field, and we are then slowed down by having to fix it in post. Fixing it in post, a lot of times, is more expensive than fixing it in the field. People don’t realize that.
[tony west] “When News is breaking and there is a press conference I don’t WANT to worry about TC.”
Well, you shouldn’t. That’s a single camera thing…that’s NEWS. That’s different. Jam synching timecode doesn’t happen with ON THE SCENE news does it? Dunno, not my area.
[tony west] “I care about doing good work and getting paid.”
Then please take care to give post everything we need. Make things smoother for post, and producers remember you…want to use you again. Cause problems for post, you won’t get hired again.
[tony west] “The faster I can move your stuff out the door the more stuff I can work on and get paid more.”
The BETTER stuff is prepared and given to us, the more money you save the production.
Shane
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“Well, as an editor, without jamming TC, a lot of time is used dealing with this issue”
That’s my point, (I edit also) with X you can sync WITHOUT TC. You highlight both clips and the hit sync and done. That’s how I would rather do it.
“Well, you shouldn’t. That’s a single camera thing…that’s NEWS. That’s different. Jam synching timecode doesn’t happen with ON THE SCENE news does it? Dunno, not my area.”
But it is my area and I can explain how it works.
FSN and Fox 2 news are both FOX. One is sports, and the other is news but we share footage because we are the same company. We could both have shooters there. Happens all the time.Also we have more than one shooter at FSN. Depending on what is happening we could have many shooters.
Shane, our team is in the World Series tonight. How many people do you think we will have down there?
I can tell you it’s not going to be ONE. It’s the World Series.“Then please take care to give post everything we need.”
But I’m post also Shane, I’m a shooter AND an editor and finding shots by name with X is what I need.
It’s just not what you need.We do different stuff man.
Remember I’m not telling YOU to use this app, I’m telling others how I use it or could use it in the future.
“The BETTER stuff is prepared and given to us, the more money you save the production.”
CORRECT they are wasting money by looking for shots the “old” way.
The “BETTER stuff” for me is stuff that is ORGANIZED the way I want to use it.Tony West
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These threads continue to be so ODD in my opinion.
It’s like we’re living in CLANS here. If you’re in one clan, you MUST dismiss what he other is saying. Your clan reality is the ONLY perspective your willing to shoehorn the entire discussion into. In that sense, I guess it is like the politics of this era. Defaulting to “inflexible” no matter the sense of anything outside our personal predilections.
A few brave souls on EACH side willing to listen to what the other is saying, but everybody else stuck in their world view come hell or high water.
I honestly didn’t feel FCP-X was getting a particularly fair hearing at the beginning because it was so unusual, but now I’m confident that the software is finally being more accurately understood since there are now enough voices who know what it is, rather than exclusively what they originally “wished” it to be. So I’m feeling personally less defensive or antagonistic about the whole thing.
It isn’t worthy of “doom and gloom” and it currently isn’t perfect manna from the software gods. It’s a fresh, new working tool with a tremendous amount of as yet unrealized potential – still in early development.
That’s good enough for me.
Just musing of an evening.
YMM (and very likely will) V.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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