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  • 5.1.3 loss of RT compared to 5.1.2

    Posted by Gary Adcock on February 21, 2007 at 3:13 pm

    is it me or has the 5.1.3 upgrade limited the RT extreme engine?

    my Intel machine no longer can do the same number of video streams from my G-speed 4G array that it could prior to the upgrade. no matter what format it seems that I can only get 5 streams of video to play in real time.

    I have tried SD as DV, 8bit and 10bit SD, 720p24 as DVCPROHD, 8 bit.

    The same array switched to my Dual 2.5 running 5.1.2 can easily do 10- DV streams and 12 -720p24 DVCPROHD.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
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    Post and Production Workflows

    Paul Dickin replied 17 years, 1 month ago 8 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Gary Adcock

    February 21, 2007 at 3:22 pm

    [gary adcock] “my Intel machine no longer can do the same number of video streams from my G-speed 4G array that it could prior to the upgrade. no matter what format it seems that I can only get 5 streams of video to play in real time. “

    I should have added that I am testing in safe mode- which should allow me to handle as much data as the computer hardware will allow, based on drive speed. My Kona is doing the scaling, and I am seeing a number of things that do not jive with performance as it was.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

  • Walter Biscardi

    February 21, 2007 at 3:23 pm

    [gary adcock]
    is it me or has the 5.1.3 upgrade limited the RT extreme engine?”

    Is there anything 5.1.3 DIDN’T break?

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 21, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    …and did anyone fine FCP 5.1.2? I have updated my laptop and want to go back. My other suites don’t have the 5.1.2 package on them.

    Jeremy

  • Mark Maness

    February 21, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    I’m starting to agree with this notion…

    I’m seeing lots of “squirrelyness” since this update. I’m getting decreased performance as well as odd crashes.

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  • David Roth weiss

    February 21, 2007 at 5:20 pm

    Hey Jeremy,

    Always clone your system drive using CCloner before updating FCP. Its such cheap insurance for just these types of snafus.

    DRW

  • Bob Flood

    February 21, 2007 at 5:21 pm

    gary

    how the f do you get 10 streams? 🙂 are you talking multi clip? i am lucky if i get 3 streams of 16×9 dv50 to play.

    example: i have a dv 50 fg with 3 green frames and a simple color key. i then have a talking head scaled down and keyed in one of the windows, and then a still tga in the other, and as soon as it plays it drops to 50% rez, maybe more, and 15 fps.

    the only time i have ever ever ever gotten more than 2 or 3 streams to play clean is when they are part of a multi clip

    intel dual 2.66, 2gB ram, FW800 2 drive sata array @75mB/sec read time average, aja IO la

    so please, enlighten me!

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 21, 2007 at 5:25 pm

    Yeah, you’re right. It’s only my laptop so I’m not real worried. I thought I had the 5.1.2 updater on my other boxes, but no. I found a torrent, but it’s going to take a few days to download as there’s only 1 or 2 two peers on at a time.

    Jeremy

  • Gary Adcock

    February 21, 2007 at 5:42 pm

    [Bob Flood] “how the f do you get 10 streams? 🙂 are you talking multi clip? i am lucky if i get 3 streams of 16×9 dv50 to play.”

    Bob
    you missed the part about my G-Spped being 4G fibre… (testing 750G and 1T drives in it)

    FYI
    I capture the same video clips machine (Kona2) to machine (Kona 3) and that way I can test any format or bit depth using the Kona controls to change the video to everything from DV , to uncompressed SD and HD at 720 and 1080

    HDV tests have to be done from FW masters.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

  • Aaron Neitz

    February 21, 2007 at 6:42 pm

    I lost RT going from .1 to .2 – I used to be able to read 10 bit uncompressed HD in an 8 bit timeline, and I used to have preview quality 3 way CC in 8 bit uncompressed HD with 5.1.1

    can only imagine .3 is worse…. c’mon Apple. Ditch the old and busted, give us the new hotness!

  • Bob Flood

    February 21, 2007 at 7:28 pm

    thanx gary

    actually, i think i missed the bigger point that fcp CAN do multiple streams real time, the limiting factor is the drive/are the drives.

    so, where can i look for info as to throughput vs performance. i though that we had a couple of pretty fast arrays, but apparently not

    thanx again

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