4:3 and 16:9 footage in 3:2 sequence to PAL Please Take Me step By Step

[Rafael Amador]

Dont copy and paste. Drag the NTSC sequence on top of the PAL sequence.

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[Robin Rudy]

Thanks, ok, so I would just go ahead and nest the 3:2 sequence into a newly created pal sequence.

Additionally, do I need to have anamorphic and 4:3 footage on 2 separate tracks so they are encoded separately when sending to compressor?

With the tests I have done thus far, the 16:9 and 4:3 footage have different letterboxing ratios in the compressor preview; I have compensated for this via cropping in the inspector in compressor.

And is it possible to simply export from a dv ntsc timeline with 4:3 and 16: 9 footage in a 3:2 sequence into compressor and select the compressor advanced format conversion option, changing/ reencoding in compressor from dv ntsc to pal?

Once in compressor:

should I create an mpeg 2 or a quicktime?
should I be using DV PAL or PAL Anamorphic?

as an mpeg2
video format: pal
aspect ratio 16:9
quality 2 pass vbr

and if exporting as a quicktime, should video be interlaced or progressive?

I’ve also researched that the frame controls should be changed :
custom
resize filter: best
output felds: same
deinterlace: better
rate conversion: better

Thanks for any help. I truly appreciate it!

MacBook Pro / Intel Core 2 Duo / 2.2 GHz /
2 GB memory / 800 MHz / FCP 5.1

[Rafael Amador]

Sorry but I don’t think my suggestion will work. I think that FC won’t lets you to set a sequence inside another sequence with different time-base.
Why don’t just send your NTSC sequence to Compressor? > Other workflows> Advanced Format Conversion> DV PAL 16×9

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G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
JVC DTV-17″
SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
..and always a big mess on top of the table.

[Rafael Amador]

Hi Robin,
You were posting me while I was posting you.
The easiest workflow:
– Forget about you want to make a PAL movie and make the best NTSC master you can.
– Convert your NTSC movie to PAL. You can use Compressor, Nattress Standar Converter or MPGStreamclip. But think that if you use Compressor and set the parameters to CUSTOM , compressor can take ages to make the conversion.
– Send your PAL movie to Compressor to make aPAL MPG2.

Mac OX 10.5.2-FC 6.02-QT 7.4.1
G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
JVC DTV-17″
SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
..and always a big mess on top of the table.

[Robin Rudy]

Hi, ok, thanks… for some reason I am confused, will check on the thread in the am…

ok so i am using compressor twice?
once from the timeline in fcp via compressor make a quicktime, this is converting the master ntsc into a pal qt?

then import this new pal qt into compressor again to make m2v?

isn’t is possible to import the new pal qt made via compressor into dvd studio pro?

thanks again.

MacBook Pro / Intel Core 2 Duo / 2.2 GHz /
2 GB memory / 800 MHz / FCP 5.1

[Rafael Amador]

Once you have your PAL.mov, you can use Compressor to make the .mv2 and the audio, or import directly the .mov to DVDSTP. DVDSTP will make the transcoding. I personally prefer Compressor. The two applications work quite well, so think that the quality of the final DVD will depends mostly of the quality of your PAL master. So try to get the best possible.

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PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
JVC DTV-17″
SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
..and always a big mess on top of the table.

[Robin Rudy]

Thanks. I made the qt in compressor and then brought it into dvdsp. Tried to burn, and DVD will not burn — error “bit rate too high.”

Do you have any suggestions– should i just do a 1 pass vbr when making the quicktime to lower the bit rate? is this how I would lower the bit rate?

or should I bring the QT I made into compressor to create the m2v?- would this affect the bit rate?

Thanks again for any help, I am hopeful my questions are clear.

MacBook Pro / Intel Core 2 Duo / 2.2 GHz /
2 GB memory / 800 MHz / FCP 5.1

[Rafael Amador]

What Preset or data-rate have you set? What kind of audio?
You shouldn’t have problems with “Best Quality 90 minutes”. You can even set the audio as .aiff instead of Dolby Digital to get better quality.
One or two passes doesn’t change the final data-rate of your MPGs.

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PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
JVC DTV-17″
SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
..and always a big mess on top of the table.

[Robin Rudy]

Rafael thanks.

I’m sorry if this sounds like an obvious Question but:

I am exporting via fcp to compresor making a quicktime and then bringing this into dvd sp, right? DVD sp will convert thie quicktime into an m2v, and then burn is this correct?

Thanks so much.

MacBook Pro / Intel Core 2 Duo / 2.2 GHz /
2 GB memory / 800 MHz / FCP 5.1

[Rafael Amador]

Yes. You can import the .mov directly to DVDSTP, or you can use again Compressor to do the MPG2 and the audio. Then bring those to DVDSTP.

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G5 2x2Gh 4GbRAM-BlackMagic Extreme
PMBP 17″Core2Duo 4GbRAM-AJA ioHD
JVC DTV-17″
SONY EX-1 . SONY PD170
..and always a big mess on top of the table.