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2005-fcp 5, 2012-fcpX
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[Jeremy Garchow] “I would rather have the better tools than the better waveforms.”
Seems like it would be nice to have both. 🙂 I’m with Chris here, it’s nice to know when you’re having DC offset issues.
Shawn
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “there is a small lake of koolaid here methinks – those waveforms are manifestly worse, and analysing waveforms is part of the job. they are compromised imho.”
That’s right Aindreas, dismiss peoples actual experience and opinions as drinking the koolaid, just because we’re not agreeing with you.
Steve Connor
‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure” -
for the love of god – steve those waveforms are worse man. look at them, and ask yourself is that an improvement? vector simplification of the actual waveform into a bunch of little jags?
they are worse. Anyone who is like – how dare you come the high and mighty just because they don’t meet your blah blah – forget that stuff. they’re worse. a lot worse.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “there is a small lake of koolaid here methinks – those waveforms are manifestly worse, and analysing waveforms is part of the job. they are compromised imho.”
I actually prefer a nice glass of KoolAid over a cup of bile. 😉 Leaving aside whether the waveforms contain enough information for a true audiophile… All I know, is that I can do stuff like this:
Please note that the grey bar at the top of the timeline represents a frame…
Edit: Just in case… I’m aware that you can keyframe audio in subframe/sample increments in FCP & and other NLE’s. What i like is the ability to trim, select and manipulate (copy/paste etc) ranges, and move entire clips in subframe sample increments. It makes matching beats, dialog etc ridiculously easy….
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~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “they are worse. Anyone who is like – how dare you come the high and mighty just because they don’t meet your blah blah – forget that stuff. they’re worse. a lot worse.
“So are you saying, actually that might be worse?
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Everything you say, yes. There is no right or wrong to where you are and what you need or want. Its personal taste and specific jobs. We agree. For me, I can live with the waveforms, but don’t like them, want a mixer over universal plugins (but would much prefer both) and would very much like to be able to use a controller. I think it was FCP6 that added it, and it was great. It’s not that I don’t do a lot–even most–of my audio with a mouse, but taking a run at a mix with a controller to get everything just about right, and to better understand the mix, is worthwhile. I do wonder whether a controller is now more difficult to implement with X’s underlying structure.
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[Charlie Austin] “I actually prefer a nice glass of KoolAid over a cup of bile. ;-)”
Nice!
Steve Connor
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[Shawn Miller] “Seems like it would be nice to have both. :-)”
*shakes fist* Both? Ha!
[Shawn Miller] “I’m with Chris here, it’s nice to know when you’re having DC offset issues.”
In X, you can at least SEE what the filters are doing to the audio.
If you are having DC Offset issues in 7, how do you know when it’s fixed? Guess and render send it to an updatable waveform that will redraw the proper fix?
Sorry guys, audio in FCPX is better even with worse waveforms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73VKEJaSp48
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “how dare you come the high and mighty”
I dare, I really dare!
Steve Connor
‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure” -
good sweet god almighty its not bile.
Look – you can tell me there is anti-gravity in there, and also well done on the passive agressive “audiophile” snark,
you can show me the gates of zanzibar in the audio snapshot.
those.
Waveforms.
Are.
Way.
Worse.
end of.
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