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  • MP4 from PC to final cut

    Posted by Deleted User on April 28, 2010 at 11:06 pm

    Hallo

    I shot a concert for a client last Saturday.
    I used 3 EX1’s for the job.

    The client wanted to edit the footage himself.

    I use Vegas Pro
    He uses Final Cut pro

    He asked to get a HD with all the footage so I imported all the footage using Vegas and put it all on a HD.

    He now has the hard drive and has transferred all the footage to his Mac.

    But he can’t use it, as Final cut refuses to open or play the clips.

    I have no knowledge about Final Cut so I thought I would ask the nice folks here at creative cow for some assistance !

    What do I do ?
    How does my client get my MP4 files ?

    …the SxS has already been used for something else

    -Christoffer
    Denmark

    Shane Ross replied 16 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Kevin Monahan

    April 28, 2010 at 11:22 pm
  • Alan Okey

    April 29, 2010 at 12:53 am

    Did you back up the contents of the SxS cards, by which I mean the original BPAV folders? This is the preferred way to archive SxS cards in case you need to edit their contents in another NLE in the future. If you have the BPAV folders, give them to your client.

    FCP imports XDCAM footage differently than Vegas. FCP uses a utility called Log and Transfer to open the BPAV folders and rewrap the contents into Quicktime files. If you didn’t save the BPAV folders, then others on this forum may have suggestions how to deliver usable files to your client.

  • Scott Sheriff

    April 29, 2010 at 1:01 am

    Hmm, too bad you already reused the media, it would have been better for the editor to capture the media himself since Mpeg4 (aka H.264) is really not an editing codec, and will need to be converted. ProRes would be the way to go.

    Scott Sheriff
    Director
    SST Digital Media
    https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com

  • Rafael Amador

    April 29, 2010 at 2:04 am

    Scott,
    MP4 is a container. H264 is a codec.
    The EX records MP4. In fact there are MPEG-2 wrapped as MP4.
    For FC you need to un-wrap them or use a plugin.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Shane Ross

    April 29, 2010 at 2:59 am

    So you didn’t back up the cards, keeping the complete file structure? DO you also capture tapes and then throw them away, or reuse them? In the tapeless world you MUST keep that file structure.

    You captured the footage into Vegas, and now are trying to get that captured footage into FCP? Footage that is captured in one editing software typically cannot be used in another. So if you knew that they were going to be using FCP, you need to take measures to ensure that they can access the footage.

    You need to convert the MP4 files to a QT format that the mac can read, and then they can convert them to a format FCP understands. Bear in mind that timecode and other metadata wont be accurate using this method.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Scott Sheriff

    April 29, 2010 at 4:28 am

    Rafael,
    Isn’t this a similar situation to the Canon 5D MII, 7D, or am I missing something?
    So if you ‘unwrap’ these files, what do you end up with?
    Scott

    Scott Sheriff
    Director
    SST Digital Media
    https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com

  • Rafael Amador

    April 29, 2010 at 5:03 am

    Hi Scott,
    Is different than with the Canon files.
    In the Canon you get plain H264 QT movies.
    With the EX you get MP4 files that will be re-wrapped as QT or as MFX (Mac or PC) during the transfer. The codec is the SONY EX (MPEG-2).
    So if you don’t know if the stuff will be edited in a PC or a Mac, the best option is to save the full BPAV folder keeping the structure.
    I think that Vegas and other PC applications can work directly with these MP4, but QT can not read them.
    It would be great if this would be fixed.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Scott Sheriff

    April 29, 2010 at 6:34 am

    Rafael,
    Thanks for clearing that up, good info to have.
    S

    Scott Sheriff
    Director
    SST Digital Media
    https://www.sstdigitalmedia.com

  • Deleted User

    April 29, 2010 at 7:12 am

    Thanks for your reply.

    Yes, I figured that I need to convert them.
    Do you know of any good software that can do that trick !

    -Christoffer

    Uses : Sony PMW-EX1, Sony Vegas Pro & SonicFire pro 5,

    Dreams about buying Particle Illusion & Adobe After Effects

  • Deleted User

    April 29, 2010 at 7:22 am

    Hi Shane

    Thanks for your reply.

    “You need to convert the MP4 files to a QT format that the mac can read”

    Yes I figured that I needed to convert them.
    Do you know of a good application that can convert to ProRes ?

    “Footage that is captured in one editing software typically cannot be used in another.”

    For some year I worked with a guy who used Premiere Pro while I used Vegas , we never had trouble using files in Premiere that Vegas captured or imported (or vice versa).

    “In the tapeless world you MUST keep that file structure. ”

    That seem completely unnecessary for me,
    when I can edit the Mp4’s directly with Vegas.
    But I can see why FCP uses need to do that.

    Glad I’m using Vegas 😉

    Uses : Sony PMW-EX1, Sony Vegas Pro & SonicFire pro 5,

    Dreams about buying Particle Illusion & Adobe After Effects

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